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#778448 02/06/23 09:32 AM
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Slightly off topic, but as this forum hopefully has fans of V twin engines I hope this is of interest.

The short video link below is of an early test run of a V twin engine I have recently completed.
The design, of USA origin, is loosely based on a Harley practice, hence the design name of Hoglet.
It is approx 30cc and with an open crankcase design. So it is not intended for serious work - no crankshaft lube, more a demonstration piece where the gubbins can be seen working.
There are no castings - all from various grades of aluminium and cast iron.

In the link I had not finished the petrol tank, hence the plastic dangling affair !
It runs on pump unleaded plus a shot of two stoke oil for good luck.

Thanks for watching.

[video:youtube]https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JKKMBLYXlIA[/video]

I am still getting to grips with the carb, hence the spit back of fuel half way through!

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Thanks for sharing your project, brilliant well done clap way beyond my limited skills.


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Great stuff. That looks really good - I am very impressed.


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Great Job.

I've been watching some of the Andrew Whale You Tube videos on various engine builds. (he had carb issues on his Hoglet)

The idea behind buying my Myford lathe is to build up to making a similar engine after probably starting with small steam engines etc (think Stuart Models)

What equipment do you have, lathe, milling machine, pillar drill etc???

I'm thinking of adding a Sieg milling machine to my arsenal.


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Looks fab.

All you need to do now is to scale it up and make it fit the M3W as a replacement for the S&S hide


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I have an old but much loved Boxford CSB 4" swing lathe, a Warco WM14 mini mill and a Kerry pillar drill which I didnt use for this project.
I also have a Warco bandsaw which is very handy for rough sizing stock prior to machining.
I like to keep machine swarf to a minimum - its an indication of wasted time and money, the saw lets me get metal stock close to size with minimum waste.

The WM14 mill hit its limit for space under the quill ( Z axis ), many times making me wish I had bought something bigger, but in the end made do just.
I suspect its very similar machine to the Sieg , who have a very good reputation. My advice - go for the largest you can afford / justify !

It came with a built in DRO ( Digital Read Out ) system which is invaluable. This is the single most useful add on you can have.
The ability to drill hole spacing with confidence knowing mating parts with holes will align perfectly is amazing!
Previously I would have had to spend time making jigs and fixtures to get close to this level of accuracy, and then probably with compromises.

In large part I followed the Andrew Whale videos, which I think are excellent, differing only to suit tooling.

For this engine, a rotary table and boring head for the mill is also essential tooling.
For example ,as specified , the camshaft is made holding a 'blank' vertically in the rotary table, offset from the quill centre line by the cam lift, and with the boring head in the quill, cutting tool pointing inwards making rotary cuts around the cam shape. Confused ? I was until I tried it.
Many 'trial goes' were made until a satisfactory one emerged!

The con rods , designed following the 'blade and fork' method used on Harleys.
[img]https://tm-img.com/image/zcUQO[/img]

Crank case with assembled crankshaft and timing gears.
The bar through the flywheels is a temporary aid to align the flywheels for crankshaft assembly.
It wont revolve if things dont line up!
https://tm-img.com/image/zcDAg

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Thanks Nippymog,

You are a couple of years ahead of me I think but that's the direction I am going in.

The Sieg mill is about the same size as your Warco but I can't get a much bigger table in the space I've allocated so I will also have to find a way round the bed to quill dimension.

The camshaft machining method sounds interesting. I hope it will become obvious when I get there.


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Fantastic work!
I've got a Warco WM14 too!, and a wmt300 lathe, and I'm very slowly finishing a 3.5" gauge steam loco with it, but not made much progress recently.
I've been amazed how much some of the Chinese kit options for engines have moved on recently. Great to see model engineering alive and kicking over there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8ShLbaYt6Y
This looks especially intriguing though!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmrv2I4a_pQ


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