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MOT FAIL TODAY MOG PLUS 4 1994 TESTER SAYS FAILED DUE TO TYRES AGAINST BODY ON FULL LOCK I SAID MORGANS OF THIS TYPE ARE EXEMPT HE THEN SAID FOR ME TO PROVE THAT IS THE CASE QUESTION IS IT ME OR THE TESTER WHO SHOULD MAKE THE ENQUIRY TO CONFIRM CAR HAS PASSED 100% FIRST TIME FOR THE LAST 20+ YEARS CAN ANYONE HELP PETE
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Your right as far as I understood. An MOT tester is on here called AndyMOT. Try a PM to him.
Oh & welcome to TM
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Tell the tester to check his testing manual https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-ins...eels-tyres-and-suspension#section-5-1-2.Para 5.2.3 regarding condition and fitment of tyres and in particular cars fitted with lock stops. Nb - this is why I always adjust the tyre rubbing block to contact the tyre first when fitting crosshead braces! Arwyn
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You have to have properly maintained lock stops to pass, unless the rubbing has only been occasional when cornering hard, for instance. But if they rub the body when turning the steering wheel without the car under load, then it’s a fail. No matter what has been accepted in the past, ‘cos “rules is rules”, as they say!
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THANKSFOR THE REPLIES FROM ALL VERY HELPFUL BUT............. Wheels are not rubbing on body whether on load or not Shown the tester a printed copy of 5-1-2 tyres and axles Been in touch with the factory and received email with exemption details of Morgan 4/4 narrow chassis pre 2004 I ORIGINALLY CONTACTED THEM BY EMAIL STATING MY CAR IS A PLUS 4 1994 So Morgan headed letter has not been accepted by the tester.. Morgan have not replied to my request for exemption details on a PLUS 4 The only way out is to sell the car............ which i am now seriously thinking about........ but with a failed MOT cert !!!!!!! I had hair last week
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Pete,
you can appeal the MOT Testers decision. From the Government Website....
You can appeal against the failure if you think it's wrong. Fill in the complaint form and send it to DVSA within 14 working days of the test. DVSA will contact you within 5 days to discuss your appeal. If DVSA decides to recheck your vehicle, you'll need to arrange a date and pay the full test fee again.
Or simply take the car to another MOT place. You don't mention where you are.
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I would take it to a Morgan specialist for an MOT. You won't have a problem if it is within normal Morgan parameters.
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Not sure where the contact is, but you can it a couple of these: Chassis Steering Stop to the chassis. £40 the pair Allowed under MOT: Some vehicles have lock stops comprising rubbing pads on the body that the front tyres may contact on a full lock. These are acceptable if they are properly maintained so that they do not damage the tyres.
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Couple of what? Do you mean the rollers Rutter sells?
Peter where are you based? Most MOG owners have a classic car friendly MOT station the use.
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THANKSFOR THE REPLIES FROM ALL VERY HELPFUL BUT............. Wheels are not rubbing on body whether on load or not Shown the tester a printed copy of 5-1-2 tyres and axles Been in touch with the factory and received email with exemption details of Morgan 4/4 narrow chassis pre 2004 I ORIGINALLY CONTACTED THEM BY EMAIL STATING MY CAR IS A PLUS 4 1994 So Morgan headed letter has not been accepted by the tester.. Morgan have not replied to my request for exemption details on a PLUS 4 The only way out is to sell the car............ which i am now seriously thinking about........ but with a failed MOT cert !!!!!!! I had hair last week I am a bit confused now. In the original posting you said it failed because the tyres were touching the body on full lock, according to the tester. Now you are saying they are not rubbing on the body at all, whether under load or not. Either they are or they aren’t! If they aren’t why did tester say they were? If you take it elsewhere, I guess that the new tester will be presented with details of the failure from the online system, which may scupper your chances if indeed there is a problem in the first place.
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