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Originally Posted by Ruut Bianchi
MorganPark does, look at this photo I've taken from their hire-PlusFour and please also notice the indicator stalk.....! love thumbs

Hello Ruut,

The indicator stalk on the CX looks great, but where is the tonneau … or are the buttons a hint?


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Originally Posted by Peter J
I moved from a Plus 8 to a Boxster S because I wanted a lightweight performance Roadster with some features not available from Morgan.

1. A powered hood that is 100% waterproof when hood up.
2. A car that when driven on a wet road doesn't spray water on the inside of the screen.
3 A car that has a sophisticated traction control and stability system
4. A car that has a main dealer within 1 hours drive
5. A car with a 0-60 time of less than 4.5 seconds, yet manages 40mpg on a long run
6. A car with luggage space secure inside the boot of the car.

Morgan has to up its game......

We had a Boxster for 7 years. Great car. The only problem was that it was automatically assumed you only had one because you could afford "a real" Porsche ie a 911.

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You pays your money and make your choice; simple.


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Originally Posted by Eurosystem0
We had a Boxster for 7 years. Great car. The only problem was that it was automatically assumed you only had one because you could afford "a real" Porsche ie a 911.

When in fact the Boxster is a different animal and in a number of important ways, better than any 911..... One Boxster owner I know describes the car as a large, refined go cart, mostly because of the way it corners and rides.
It has more secure luggage space than a 911, although the rear seats of a 911 are great for larger luggage...


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If I had a choice I think I would prefer a Cayman to a 911 these days. The 911 has just become too large and a little numb. The Cayman feels more delicate and agile, sporty.


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Originally Posted by Alistair
If I had a choice I think I would prefer a Cayman to a 911 these days. The 911 has just become too large and a little numb. The Cayman feels more delicate and agile, sporty.

I know what you mean about the 911 being 'numb', especially with the electric system of the 991 & 992 versions of the past 10 years... and four wheel drive takes out even more feeling from the steering.

But then does anything give as much feedback as an Aero? Maybe a McLaren. But then width becomes a real issue on our tiny island :-)

I'm surprised to find that while an Aero is 69 inches wide, a current 911 is only 73 inches (excluding the wing mirrors) - so just 4 inches wider. It looks & feels like more.

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Originally Posted by Peter J
I moved from a Plus 8 to a Boxster S because I wanted a lightweight performance Roadster with some features not available from Morgan.

1. A powered hood that is 100% waterproof when hood up.
2. A car that when driven on a wet road doesn't spray water on the inside of the screen.
3 A car that has a sophisticated traction control and stability system
4. A car that has a main dealer within 1 hours drive
5. A car with a 0-60 time of less than 4.5 seconds, yet manages 40mpg on a long run
6. A car with luggage space secure inside the boot of the car.

Morgan has to up its game......

Be fair Peter, Morgan cars are synonymous with a raw driving experience which your list rules out. Noone with that list would consider a mog for a moment.When you say Morgan should up their game it seems to me you are really saying they should join the game that Porsche, Merc etc. play. They have mercifully stayed away from that so far.... although I admit that the new cars have started to nod in that direction....:)

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Originally Posted by Peter J
I moved from a Plus 8 to a Boxster S because I wanted a lightweight performance Roadster with some features not available from Morgan.

1. A powered hood that is 100% waterproof when hood up.
2. A car that when driven on a wet road doesn't spray water on the inside of the screen.
3 A car that has a sophisticated traction control and stability system
4. A car that has a main dealer within 1 hours drive
5. A car with a 0-60 time of less than 4.5 seconds, yet manages 40mpg on a long run
6. A car with luggage space secure inside the boot of the car.

Morgan has to up its game......

Couldn't agree more Peter that Morgan needs to up its game. This year's Plus models look like the ones that should've been offered at launch. The next car will I guess be the first fully developed under new ownership and you'd hope would be good out of the box.

The factory's relationship with its dealers needs to have them all working in the same direction. It often feels like it's Factory V Dealer.


And your list - funnily enough, an Aero does most of that!

1. A powered hood that is 100% waterproof when hood up.
>>> well, no power, but the S5's hood is watertight. On a long wet drive some moisture might creep in past the seals at the doors leading edge

2. A car that when driven on a wet road doesn't spray water on the inside of the screen.
>>> Check! You're fine in an S5 Aero

3 A car that has a sophisticated traction control and stability system
>>> ah, well, no. Although there'd Electronic Brake Distribution on the Aero, likely because it's too hard to take it off

4. A car that has a main dealer within 1 hours drive
>>> Blimey, I have two!

5. A car with a 0-60 time of less than 4.5 seconds, yet manages 40mpg on a long run
>>> Yes, on the acceleration, and 25mpg top down, 30 mpg top up/hardtop, on longer runs.

6. A car with luggage space secure inside the boot of the car.
>>> absolutely - and capacious, once you learn to pack with up-to 40 litre soft bags. Or put a several of cases of wine in the boot. + Then there's even more space in the slot with the roof.

*and* to Em's point, yes, other drivers do let a Morgan out at a junction way more than *any other make of car*. Also, they rarely move out of the fast lane when you want to pass them, because they've no concept of just how quickly your vintage-looking Morgan can go :-)

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Originally Posted by Peter J
I moved from a Plus 8 to a Boxster S because I wanted a lightweight performance Roadster with some features not available from Morgan.

1. A powered hood that is 100% waterproof when hood up.
2. A car that when driven on a wet road doesn't spray water on the inside of the screen.
3 A car that has a sophisticated traction control and stability system
4. A car that has a main dealer within 1 hours drive
5. A car with a 0-60 time of less than 4.5 seconds, yet manages 40mpg on a long run
6. A car with luggage space secure inside the boot of the car.

Morgan has to up its game......

If Morgan ever designed and produced that car it’d be the final nail.

What I love about Morgan is the quirkiness and the design.

But I have absolutely ZERO interest in a Boxster, driven plenty, a very well balanced car on track too. But I would be constantly yawning on every drive.



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