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Originally Posted by nick w
Wandering slightly....
Tesla powerwalls. Not asking about chance of internal failure causing fire, but if they catch fire from another cause I understand they burn rather fiercely and can't be put out until they run their course (?)
Does this affect house insurance? And what about if you live nextdoor to one?
Just wondering
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See https://electrek.co/2016/12/19/tesla-fire-powerpack-test-safety/


Originally Posted by IanClarkeUSA
I work in the EV vehicle industry, currently with Harley Davidson LiveWire and previously with Lucid Motors, correctly designed UN certified and correctly manufactured Lithium Ion batteries do not suffer from thermal propagation. Cheaply made non certified battery assemblies ( lower cost Ebikes and cheaper Chinese items) fail due to internal shorts or inadequate BMS control.
The 12V Lithium Ion battery in the LiveWire 1 and the Del Mar seems well made and is correctly tested and certified.
Thank you sir. I am amazed at the skills and professions represented on TM!


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do be sure to use a lithium battery charger. Regular chargers will not work.


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The Banner gel battery on my Super 3 has died and will not hold charge. Can be started with a booster. Banner were super helpful on the phone for a replacement


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If say I replace my current (pun apologies) lead acid Exide battery on my M3W with a LiPoFe Antigravity battery, could I still use a NOCO booster/starter in the event of say lights being left on in error and the battery isolator switch not being disconnected? I would not then need to arrange for a battery tender for the Morgan, when it is left in storage over the winter in France, when I am back in the UK. This year was the first year in eight, when I have not arrived at the storage to find someone has unplugged my battery tender to use the socket for something else and has forgotten to plug it back in. This year I will have a different storage arrangement, as the previous location, where I had free storage, has been sold off. I have negotiated with a local classic and historic car restoration company, in the next door village to me, Villecroze and they want to have my M3W on display in their office in return for free storage. I would prefer not to have to rely on them for a power supply for my CTEK battery tender. I am using an H-D rectifier charge controller (Electra Glide) after 4 yes 4 CE rectifier/controller failures. I assume this will work well with the Antigravity battery.

I have a battery isolator switch on my vehicles for safety reasons, other than my Panamera Hybrid, where the 20 odd computers will throw a total wobbly if the battery is disconnected. You even have to connect a 12V source to the OBD2 port when replacing the 12V AGM service battery, otherwise the vehicle will have to be trailered to a Porsche dealer to be re-initialised. Even if the 12V battery drops fractionally below 12V due to being left for a couple of weeks together with very cold weather, the car will refuse to initialise, which is why I have a NOCO booster. It only needs to be connected for a few seconds until the car initialises and the DC to DC converter kicks in to raise the service voltage above 12V, from the lithium ion traction battery. There is no starter motor as such on the petrol engine of the Panamera and it is fired by the 140 BHP/250 lbs/ft electric traction motor, which sits between the petrol engine and 8 speed PDK gearbox.

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The NOCO charger I use has a Lithium battery mode, and works fine with the AntiGravity battery I have.
I can’t comment on the HD rectifier but it works fine with the stock one.
Biggest advantages over the stock Banner are the substantial weight saving, and better starting from higher CCA.


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I use a Ctek Battery Charger that was provided by AntiGravity when I installed the AntiGravity battery; it works fine and I have the HD Rectifier too, and as John mentoned the weight savings was nice as an offset for the LED Driving lamps I installed. The thing is so light it makes you wonder how it does it.

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The light at the end of the tunnel is actually a train. 2019 M3W

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I have installed a Magneti Marelli 53034 (32A 540CCA) lithium-ion battery at passenger foot level since 3 years ago. When the 3w is not running I plug in the Optimate TM470 charger.
So far no problems.
With this link some photos

https://photos.app.goo.gl/iGKxnwEMZXgzkVcTA

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Bilymog, I really like the clean look under the bonnet with the battery removed. However, how much of a pain was it to install the battery down in the passenger footwell? I need to enlist the help of a tiny mechanic to get down there! smile Great idea, thanks for posting pics.


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