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Thank you all for the help with the photos. Here are 2 more of the shift lever:

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Hi Arwyn,

I've been doing some research but I'm still not quite sure what the major differences are between the 4/4 and the Plus 4.

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Post a picture of the engine in your car. Most likely a Ford Kent 1500 pre crossflow. A +4 would have a Triumph engine.

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I haven’t purchased it yet. I’m going to try and get up to see it tomorrow. I’ll try to take some photos and post them.

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Must be a 4/4, never heard of Plus4's with a Wooler gearlever!


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The dashboard looks like a 4/4 to me , let alone the remote gear lever . As Arwyn has said look at the engine bay and find out what engine is fitted . All 1960s +4s have a big Triumph TR engine, take some pictures and post them here if you cannot identify it and we will help.

I think it is much more likely you will find a Ford engine , not sure which one , I think a 1964 car will be a Series 5 with a 1500cc non-crossflow power unit (unless it has been changed ) as fitted to the Ford Cortina of that era.


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Hi Andy,

That seems to be the consensus of opinion is that it's a 4/4. I spoke to the owner today and he seems to think there's a ford motor in it, which would confirm the 4/4. I still may go take a look at it tomorrow and see what kind of shape it's in. The other one I'm interested in is a '61 Plus 4 that has been modified to a Supersport Clone, Webers etc. Some of the work looks decent, some, not so much.

Thanks again for everyone's help.

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Here’s a photo of the engine in the engine [Linked Image]

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Pre crossflow Ford


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Definitely a 4/4 then, not a +4...

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It looks like this one is going to need a whole lot of work. I may go back to the ‘61 Plus 4 that is still available. It’s had several “super sports” clone type modifications. Then there’s a’62 Austin Healey 3000 that looks like it’s in pretty decent shape.

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