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This is the Porsche "Button", in the centre of the Mode selector.

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It is on the steering at the 4 O/C position, just below the "up shift paddle and perfectly placed for a thumb press. Properly known as the Sport Response button it gives a 3psi overboost in turbocharged cars that lasts for roughly 20 seconds. It is perfect for making a pass and need just a little more power. In addition the revs will go to almost redline if your foot is kept planted on the accelerator pedal. The suspension will tighten to its firmest setting, the sport exhaust will open up and emit a louder sound and the engine mounts will also stiffen.

This explains the detail... https://www.pca.org/news/porsche-driving-modes-what-are-they-what-do-they-mean

I use it surprisingly frequently


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Originally Posted by Peter J
It is on the steering at the 4 O/C position, just below the "up shift paddle and perfectly placed for a thumb press. Properly known as the Sport Response button it gives a 3psi overboost in turbocharged cars that lasts for roughly 20 seconds. It is perfect for making a pass and need just a little more power. In addition the revs will go to almost redline if your foot is kept planted on the accelerator pedal. The suspension will tighten to its firmest setting, the sport exhaust will open up and emit a louder sound and the engine mounts will also stiffen.

Interesting!

It apparently replaces the mechanical Rising Rate Fuel Pressure Regulator used on the classic Morgans, though THEY certainly did not stiffen the suspension. smile RRFPRs provide as much as 1-15 psi more fuel pressure in demand situations. The UK also invented (FSE) many variants, so one can choose the demand pressure rise curve desired OR, with the earliest Morgan EFIs, adjust fuel pressure with a turn of dial road to suit any engine capacity or competion . I coupled my FSE with a fuel pressure gauge, (1) to know precisely how to tune the engine to meet different situations. 2. I found the gauge helpful as at any instant, one knows whether a problem is ignition or fuel related, cutting out 50% of the guess work. Do CX cars have a fuel pressure gauge? That would be brilliant!

Of course, with the system you describe, within its programmed parameters, there is no need of any owner intervention aside from flipping a switch. I am fascinated how brakes, cooling, virtually everything, is becoming computer controlled.

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Originally Posted by gomog
[quote=Peter J] It is on the steering at the 4 O/C position, just below the "up shift paddle and perfectly placed for a thumb press. Properly known as the Sport Response button it gives a 3psi overboost in turbocharged cars that lasts for roughly 20 seconds. It is perfect for making a pass and need just a little more power. In addition the revs will go to almost redline if your foot is kept planted on the accelerator pedal. The suspension will tighten to its firmest setting, the sport exhaust will open up and emit a louder sound and the engine mounts will also stiffen.

Interesting!

It apparently replaces the mechanical Rising Rate Fuel Pressure Regulator used on the classic Morgans, though THEY certainly did not stiffen the suspension. smile RRFPRs provide as much as 1-15 psi more fuel pressure in demand situations. The UK also invented (FSE) many variants, so one can choose the demand pressure rise curve desired OR, with the earliest Morgan EFIs, adjust fuel pressure with a turn of dial road to suit any engine capacity or competion . I coupled my FSE with a fuel pressure gauge, (1) to know precisely how to tune the engine to meet different situations. 2. I found the gauge helpful as at any instant, one knows whether a problem is ignition or fuel related, cutting out 50% of the guess work. Do CX cars have a fuel pressure gauge? That would be brilliant!

Of course, with the system you describe, within its programmed parameters, there is no need of any owner intervention aside from flipping a switch. I am fascinated how brakes, cooling, virtually everything, is becoming computer controlled.

gmg

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Originally Posted by Gambalunga
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Originally Posted by Gambalunga
There is an overtaking button in the Plus 4 too. It is the big round one in the middle of the steering wheel drive



Ahh: Italian style of driving hide
Somehow the word "button" dropped out. frown

In Italian one of the terms used for a car horn is "Avvitatore acustico". laugh


I remember quite good a motorcycle trip through Italy about 30 years ago.

On a winding route with a few villages, I was overtaken by a 70-year-old man in a very old Opel Kadett (Vauxhall) (even then). I tried to keep up - the driver drove in front of me through all the villages, honking loudly.
I was only driving a HONDA CX500 with 50 hp, but the power should have been enough...
After a while I gave up - it was just too dangerous - and my ears hurt from the constant honking


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To circle back to the original question, what a Boxster has that no other car does is…..👢👢
Two boots! A brilliant design.


Why/why not a Ferrari?
Windbag internet answer is usually along the lines of dynamics, power and precision handling, qualities which it does indeed excel at but the honest answer is probably nothing more than vanity. 😂

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Originally Posted by Ewan
To circle back to the original question, what a Boxster has that no other car does is…..👢👢
Two boots! A brilliant design.


Why/why not a Ferrari?
Windbag internet answer is usually along the lines of dynamics, power and precision handling, qualities which it does indeed excel at but the honest answer is probably nothing more than vanity. 😂

Agreed!!!


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I agree with John`s thinking that time spent as a motorcyclist in one`s yoof would seem to provide an awareness of a much wider range of road surfaces and the different effects each might have when riding over them, be that accelerating braking or cornering, all of which I suspect the average motorist seems likely to be totally unaware of.

As I have typed a few times, my last m/cycle bought in my fifties was a BMW R850R to enjoy riding on the interesting roads hereabouts, and when out riding I would on occasion find myself sitting at circa 60MPH on a lengthy straight to be almost blown into the weeds by other m/cyclists overtaking me at speeds I would not like to guess at, only to perhaps catch up and overtake them once the road presented a few miles of interesting curves and corners. In much the same situation, all be it with slower passing speeds, I would be overtaken on straights by white van man, or mums rushing their kids to here there and everywhere....that and so much more is the reality of the traffic situations I would find myself in on occasion.

I bought into the idea of Morgan ownership to enjoy a more involving driving experience, at or near road legal speeds when compared to the "advances" in auto engineering technology which provided a far more insular transportation experience in machinery with excesses of horsepower waiting to be unleashed for what general purpose...? Exposed to the elements in a noisy old machine that demands a degree of attention to maintain directional control on average UK road surfaces, feeling as if progressing at 100 MPH when probably only travelling at half of that or less, seemed to fit better with my ideals in the mid 90`s

I guess I have ever preferred driving sports cars for purposes other than just enjoying the scenery and definitely not to pose around town in, I have done quite a few miles on tracks, but only a tiny fraction compared to that which I have enjoyed on the road over many decades in a variety of sports cars...As for treating every roundabout and bend as if it had a diesel spill or making allowance for the over medicated, those who had rather a lot to drink the night before, which may have been but a few hours previously, those not paying nearly enough attention while involved in phone conversation, or those in whatever foul mood they might be in for whatever reason.... Yeah they and more are all out there, but life is a risky business and to package all the possibilities into planning every move on every trip, would undoubtedly cause one to give up ever being on the road at any time for any purpose for fear of the possible consequences...?

Or have I got that all wrong.... again..?

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Originally Posted by Ewan
To circle back to the original question, what a Boxster has that no other car does is…..👢👢
Two boots! A brilliant design.


Why/why not a Ferrari?
Windbag internet answer is usually along the lines of dynamics, power and precision handling, qualities which it does indeed excel at but the honest answer is probably nothing more than vanity. 😂

Whilst I have not owned a Ferrari, I have had a lot of seat time in many versions and I have owned a few Porsches. With that said, I would have to agree with the windbag internet answers. A Ferrari is at a whole other level, be it when one is pushing very hard. At the end of the day, it's a Ferrari.

I am a big fan of the 718, I've owned two, but never would I compare it to a Fezza. 911 GT favour of some sorts, perhaps. It would be like comparing a Merc C Class to a Bentley Flying Spur. Both are comfy sedans, seat 4 in relative comfort, can be had with leather but at the end of the day, leagues apart I'm afraid.

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Originally Posted by Luddite
I agree with John`s thinking that time spent as a motorcyclist in one`s yoof would seem to provide an awareness of a much wider range of road surfaces and the different effects each might have when riding over them, be that accelerating braking or cornering, all of which I suspect the average motorist seems likely to be totally unaware of.

Not meant in a rude manner (or at Luddite given I hit reply on his post) but I have to wonder if the idea of putting the least experienced on a mode of transport which makes them most vulnerable to a poor judgement call is good for anything except supporting Darwin's preferred mode of selection ? Whilst the young do have the ability to bounce and repair better it would seem a little rough putting them furthest in harms way to begin.

I guess in our youth the approach to learning was definitely more adventure based but I fear the (stereotype) current generation would be looking for someone to sue within moments. Lets face it they need a "hot" warning label on a coffee....

Mind you if pressed I could think of a few that I would have suggested this path to in the hope of improving the planet. Like the MP's that could not even vote to support a cease fire in Gaza last night. Regardless of which side your support falls continuing death is just dumb. I was going to wish them something nasty here but then I would be at their level.


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In my humble opinion, surrounding oneself with a metal shell on four wheels gives one a false sense of security and invulnerability that is often not deserved. Whilst it may seem Darwinian to put people on low powered 2 wheels may seem counter intuitive, at least with the right tuition, they would have a greater affinity and correlation to the road surface and its condition resulting impact on their progress.


Considering no form of tuition or testing of competence and understanding of eg the Highway Code is required of cyclists, who are far more exposed and capable of quite high speeds on the highway, by comparison the theory and practical part of the motorcyclists licencing teaches a sense of roadcraft as one directly feels and interfaces with the weather and prevailing road conditions , not being cocooned in a warm, heated and dry environment of a car.

Without question I learnt more of my roadcraft from my early motorcycling days, same echoed by my wife who undertook her motorcycle tuition and test ( in her forties) during the winter gave her greater awareness of road conditions than her decades driving a car.

As in all things idiots will be idiots no matter what you do, as many in their youth suffer from a false sense of invincibility.

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