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Perhaps a daft question: What is a "long door" Morgan? What's the difference to a standard door? Does it make a difference to the lenght of the car? Is it still around? Frank, who only knew the "long wait" back in the eighties
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According to Michael Palmer's rather nice book "Morgan 4/4 - first 75 years":
"The door aperture was increased by 2in (51mm) in late 1997, leading to these models becoming known as 'long door' cars. Part of the redesign was due to the fitment, or possible fitment of airbags...dashboard redesigned...demisting vents lost...equipped with heated windscreen...under scuttle rollbar...antisubmaring seats...side impact door bars"
So the long doors coincided with a raft of other safety changes. Apparently fitted with airbags, the trad tested by MIRA "produced the lowest rate of injury of any car tested".
Interesting eh? And yes they are still around, it is the current design. The overall length of the car was unchanged at 153 inches.
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'Long door' came in in late '97 (probably for model year '98). The doors are 2" longer than previously. The extra length was accommodated in the bulkhead area. The top of the dash is narrower (no room for air vents to demist screen - hence the electric screen). This gave the necessary space to move the wheel a couple of inches forward, so compying with the regs for fitting driver airbag. Around that time the stainless steel bulkhead became standard fitting along with some other updates.
Cheers,
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Synchronised posting by 2 sad geeks!
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If you look hard, the difference in length is just about evident.
DaveW '05 Red Roadster S1 '16 Yellow (Not the only) Narrow AR GDI Plus 4
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Or two great minds... ?  No, perhaps you are right!  I'd started my answer, then got called for dinner - finished and posted and there was your post too. Cheers,
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Graham, I have somehow got this image of you being called to dinner by your butler. " Sir, dinner is served and your long door is cleaned and ready for use"
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I am thinking this could be a new Sunday night drama to replace Downton Abbey. 
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Graham, I have somehow got this image of you being called to dinner by your butler. " Sir, dinner is served and your long door is cleaned and ready for use" You clearly know Graham too well.
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Graham (G4FUJ)
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