Talk Morgan Forums Morgan Sports Cars Morgan Three Wheeler & Super 3 HERE WE GO............tuning the S&S

of course: FIRST
- get to know the handling (braking!!!) of the 3whlr
- finding out how reliable the whole package is
- finding out if more power can be handled by us

but I guess most will start with making the exhaust fully "open pipes"

and a free flowing air filter

Too much is never enough!

I wonder if you can make it do stoppies?

curiosity killed the cat

A report I've read suggests the engine may have been down tuned by Morgan... If that is the case, upping the performance ought to be simple.

I don`t want to hide my first driving impressions with the 3Wheeler any longer:

It is great fun to drive the new 3Wheeler. When you lift the bomb release button and start the engine you are impressed. Hearing every detonation of the massiv S&S twin Zylinder a magical step back in time starts. I can promise, that every journey with the 3Wheeler will be an adventure. And you will find many new friends. It`s a toy no one needs, but it`s nice to have when you can afford it.

Steering response is very direct and driving comfort better than I expected. It`s the double wishbone front axle that works better on bumpy roads than the traditional Morgan front axle. I didn`t drive it hard (it was wet and the 3Wheeler was brand new and not mine) so I can`t say a lot about the handling under "racing" conditions yet. Turning in some cases might be a problem because of the huge turning circle.

There are three further topics I want to mention:

1. The drive train is very noisy; I think it comes from the gear box and the reason might be the vibration of the big V 2 engine (I think it`s tolerable, if it does not cause mechanical damages).

2. The demonstrator felt as if there was to much brake power at the rear wheel. In my opinion it would be better, if the front brakes felt a little bit more aggressive. I couldn`t find out whether this was a problem of the brake balance or caused by the narrow front wheels?

3. There is enough power to have real fun. But I think – as a "racer" - you can never have enough. So a little bit more power would be fine. I had a look at the COC paper and recognized that the engine power is now „only“ 81 bhp and not the originally announced 115 bhp. In combination with the increase in weight from 450 kg to now 550 kg there is an increase in power to weight ratio of significance. I asked Steve Morris (Morgan Motor Company) for the reasons of the power reduction. He answered:

„Firstly, it is important to know that the initial data published was as always the best guess based on information we had at the time of issuing.

As with all Development of new products we are completely governed by legislation and OEM supplied product.
The new figures published are following our calibration and unfortunately they are what they are. It is important that we follow procedures as set out by the governing bodies which is what then allows us to sell the vehicles.......

.........Please do not pre judge the performance until you have driven the vehicle as I think you will find the performance exhilarating.“


I think the character of the engine is driven by its high torque and not the peak in power output. I agree, performance really is satisfactory and if someone wants to have more, the big capacity S&S engine has a lot of potential to solve this problem easily. I already sent a mail to S&S what to do to reach around 145 bhp. I will keep you informed.

It`s worth waiting!!!

Best wishes

Guenter


Edited by guenter1 (24/01/12 11:15 AM)

I want to add:

I didn`t get an answer from the factory if they detuned the engine by remapping or by mechanical changes or if the power output is originally lower than expected.

But I think we will find this out.

Best wishes Guenter

I have already emailed (twice) S&S asking about performance upgraded and received no reply of any kind, so it would appear they arn't intertested. If it's like a Harley engine then a simple air filter, pipes and EFI fueller will help a lot.