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Garden art?? We are wondering how to use our original silencers in a sculpture having had the Garage 56 ones for several years!

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The photographer was obviously distracted by those cracked children in the foreground...


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Originally Posted by Laurens
Our 2013 cars got a cracked chassis in the lower tubes with appr. 20.000 miles.
After contact with MMC, they offered to repair (welded) them both FOC.
For that, we needed to transport them from Switzerland to Malvern and back.

Ten thousand miles later, one of the cars got cracks in the upper tube, which is much more challenging to repair.
MMC asked to bring the cracked car once more to Malvern, where they installed a completely new chassis FOC.
Besides the lengthy transport, we were happy with the service from MMC.

Currently, the car with the old 2013 chassis still looks OK on the upper tubes, but how long will it last?
These cracks are like a sword of Damocles for ALL owners of a pre-2014 car.
It’s not whether it will crack but more of when.
And believe me, that always happens during the touring season and not in wintertime when the car stands in the garage.

I’ve contacted M3W Service France and talked about this lingering problem. They offered me a good and clever solution to strengthen the old chassis to something much more robust.
As that looks like a wise idea, it would be best to get this done before the touring season starts.
It’s not a cheap preventative upgrade, but there are no worries about a cracked chassis anymore.

But as always, with an M3W, we still need to keep our fingers crossed for a trouble-free touring season.

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Originally Posted by Laurens
Our 2013 cars got a cracked chassis in the lower tubes with appr. 20.000 miles.
After contact with MMC, they offered to repair (welded) them both FOC.
For that, we needed to transport them from Switzerland to Malvern and back.

Ten thousand miles later, one of the cars got cracks in the upper tube, which is much more challenging to repair.
MMC asked to bring the cracked car once more to Malvern, where they installed a completely new chassis FOC.
Besides the lengthy transport, we were happy with the service from MMC.

Currently, the car with the old 2013 chassis still looks OK on the upper tubes, but how long will it last?
These cracks are like a sword of Damocles for ALL owners of a pre-2014 car.
It’s not whether it will crack but more of when.
And believe me, that always happens during the touring season and not in wintertime when the car stands in the garage.

I’ve contacted M3W Service France and talked about this lingering problem. They offered me a good and clever solution to strengthen the old chassis to something much more robust.
As that looks like a wise idea, it would be best to get this done before the touring season starts.
It’s not a cheap preventative upgrade, but there are no worries about a cracked chassis anymore.

But as always, with an M3W, we still need to keep our fingers crossed for a trouble-free touring season.

Did you have the stock shock absorbers on it the entire time or did you switch them to something providing a softer less jarring ride?

My 2019 was night and day different when I switched shocks and I cannot help but think it will help preserve the frame as well as the fuel tanks.


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Originally Posted by LightSpeed
Did you have the stock shock absorbers on it the entire time or did you switch them to something providing a softer less jarring ride?

My 2019 was night and day different when I switched shocks and I cannot help but think it will help preserve the frame as well as the fuel tanks.

It looks like all pre 2014 specification chassis will eventually crack in the upper forward chassis tubes, no matter what shock absorbers you have. Better quality ones may possibly make things last a little longer but as there is no definite life for these chassis it would be hard to tell. If you fit a nice set of shock absorbers, the car will ride better but you still need to be keeping a close eye of those chassis tubes.

You can sort the fuel tank cracking issue by simply fitting the extra load spreading glue on brackets, as detailed on this forum.

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Yes, there were Ohlins fitted long before the cracks showed up.
These shocks give a big improvement in comfort and handling but I’m in doubt if it helps to prevent a cracked chassis.
This month we will get our car back from M3W Services France after the chassis improvements.
I will ask them for some pictures to give you an idea of how they solve this problem.


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Originally Posted by planenut
[quote=LightSpeed]

You can sort the fuel tank cracking issue by simply fitting the extra load spreading glue on brackets, as detailed on this forum.


I have tried to follow that Thread closely and somehow I missed "Load Spreading Glue".


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Bad punctuation, sorry. I meant load spreading brackets, glued on with PU adhesive. 😊 No doubt not bouncing the tanks up and down quite so harshly with better shocks will help preserve them as well but the extra brackets seem to fix the problem 🤞.

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is there a link to that thread.... just in case, not that anything can go wrong with a Morgan (like sumping quarts of oil)


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