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Originally Posted by meabh
I had something similar occur once with my 89 Plus 4. Running at 3500 to 4000 rpm it would suddenly cut out. Once the restarted it would be fine until the next period of similar revs.The answer ( hats off to Go Mog ) was to replace the alternator. The problem never reoccured. After I had sold my first 4/4 the new owner had the same problem and once again an alternator change solved it. Coincidence perhaps.
Always keen to learn something new, but cannot for the life of me understand why a faulty alternator would cause exactly this type of fault as described.
Where is it to be found on GoMog please?


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Originally Posted by meabh
I had something similar occur once with my 89 Plus 4. Running at 3500 to 4000 rpm it would suddenly cut out. Once the restarted it would be fine until the next period of similar revs.The answer ( hats off to Go Mog ) was to replace the alternator. The problem never reoccured. After I had sold my first 4/4 the new owner had the same problem and once again an alternator change solved it. Coincidence perhaps.
Always keen to learn something new, but cannot for the life of me understand why a faulty alternator would cause exactly this type of fault as described.
Where is it to be found on GoMog please?

Me too! Lots of the 4/4 and Plus 4 engine stuff came to gomog from others over 25 years ago and only use and search my archives for those models when called upon. However,
experience with any car teaches you about all cars. So I am glad gomog helped but today, I am very much older and very slightly wiser. winky If I have a speciality it is
with Plus 8s, primarily the ones I have owned. (3)

Today, I would say check the tightness of the fan belt first with the symptoms described. I carry an spare fan belt in all my cars. You see they all go bad, rather quickly, Tiny cracks form
that you cannot see without a magnifying class (though the modern straps are reputedly better. They have to be with load of stuff they have to turn. As the fan belts wear (I
would not trust one for more than 2 years, unless I am carrying a spare. BTW, fan belt compound ages whether the belt is used or not. Like tyres. In fact, unused it becomes
misshapen with a much shorter life span but it will help in an annoying emergency during your Morgan fun time.


As the belts stretch and crack, with nobody checking them, (its is a RARE hired mechanic who will!). they begin to slip on their pulleys. Two things then happen.

1. The cars get warmer as the water pump pulley and cooling fans slow or stop,

2. Simultaneous your alternator stops producing sufficient electricity. The car will run a while on the battery but the battery will discharge. Then the car stops. Insufficient power to the
coil, ignition system. Supposedly they needs at least 9-10 volts to produce a spark. That seems to be true from experience So before you buy an alternator, the installation of
which necessitates the tightening of the fan belt.
test your belt for tightness and health. Here is how tight a fan belt should be https://www.gomog.com/allmorgan/charging.html#Tension
There are some alternator tests on the same page, or most autombile stores (aka factors) will test your alternator for free....often on the car!

Other factors that do not quite match your symptoms are a slowing failing ignition system or fuel supply.

Good luck.

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Doug,
`it was in the days of e mog. I posted about the problem and someone in the group suggested the alternator. Initially I looked for other solutions as, like you I couldn't see why that would be the problem but, in the end , I changed the alternator and the problem never reoccured. Searching the wonder web reveals that yes can be the answer.

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Originally Posted by meabh
Doug,
`it was in the days of e mog. I posted about the problem and someone in the group suggested the alternator. Initially I looked for other solutions as, like you I couldn't see why that would be the problem but, in the end , I changed the alternator and the problem never reoccured. Searching the wonder web reveals that yes can be the answer.
Well at least we agree it was a very strange solution, could have been coincidental, but if it works, who cares!
Thanks for the additional info.


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Thanks to all for your replies. I have a few things to check! Once I find the problem, I'll drop a note and hopefully help someone else.

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I changed the coil myself first, which didn't help, so I had two other classic car specialists check the car and both changed the coil, but it was the fact that I had forgotten to mention it that it's been changed a few times.

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I'm not certain that this actually an ignition issue.

As TBM has suggested, have you checked the fuel supply?

Especially, the gauze filter underneath the hose fitting on the carb - assuming that you are still running the 32/36 DGV carb

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Could it be carb icing? I've had this problem with my 1991 1.6 CVH after it was fitted with a K&N air filter box.

This happened in cold foggy air, in particular.

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