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Even with my Single-seater I used road compound on the hills ... most comp pads are about handling heat ... for the hills it's about getting heat into your brakes and tyres ... watch the first corner (Ettores) ... you'll be flat all the way there (well maybe a lift on the way) and then it's all anchors on for the hairpin 🙂

K

Ps ....... Before Graham tells me off, I know Ettores isn't the first bend according to the track map (Orchard is) ... but it's the first one that has you thinking BRAAAAKESSS!!!! 😄

Pps ... just looked back to see Deejay has said much the same thing 👍

We shall see, but essentially they're not full on track day pads, they're a fast road compound. I've found these two reviews on the Mintex M1155 pads that my new MRM1802 replace.

"I've been using Mintex 1155's up front for the past six months. Purely (properly) fast road use - no track days.

The only complaint I have is that they're a teensy bit squealy when cold. Otherwise, they're bloody excellent. Cold stopping is not an issue. Warmed up, they're better.

No hesitation - 1155's are great."

And......

About the M1155 Mintex pads..

"Been running these on my Classic Scooby STi (import '97 model) with std 4 pots, AP Racing Dot5 fluid and Pagid road disks for over a year now (including four Trackday evening events) and they are nothing short of amazing, best brakes I've had on a car. Work instantly on the road and only fade after a good few fast track laps and serious heavy braking from over 100 miles/hour (more due to heat build up in disk and pads). They recover like nothings happened in about half hour.

Ran them for about 3000 miles now and i'd say over half worn down. Brake dust is about standard and not excessive.

Highly recommend for Road and Track"

The above are just a couple of comments I found after a quick Google, personally I prefer to listen to my friends at Frontline who also highly rate these pads and use them on all their street driven re engineered MGBs, all of which make well over 200hp and are expected to have silent low dust brakes that work perfectly from cold.

In theory, the updated MRM1802 compound I'm fitting to Monty that replace the well reviewed but outgoing M1155 compound should be even better performing, but let's see?



I wouldn't go as far as MRM1805, but Mintex themselves refer to MRM1802 as a club sport compound and even specifically reference hill climbing when describing what activities this compound is suitable for. Mintex are a highly experienced and long standing manufacturer of quality brake components, so I feel comfortable in trusting their product descriptions.

So...to quote the box end 'this material must not be used on public roads'

Correct, it's a disclaimer statement originally developed by Mintex, and now used universally across the brake component industry specifically to scare off the typically hyper conservative Morgan owner.

Seriously though, pads from the Mintex 'M Range' probably aren't the ideal choice for the picnic hamper brigade

Customer relations might become interesting if an insurance assessor got wind of fitted brake pads sold with this disclaimer?

Just saying, as have previously considered jumping on board with such pads.

They're not bedded in yet but so far the new Mintex pads are working really well, excellent bite from cold and zero squealing.

I'll update this post once I've put some miles on them.



As I suspected, Monty was still on his original 13 year old original Caparo pads, some life left in them but definitely time for a change

Looks like your Caparo pads suffered the same as mine with one of the anti sqeal shims on the rear slipping. In my case, the shim dropped right through the caliper body to rub on the hub of the disc, making a horrible squeak. I then changed pads anyway.
For others, it's worth checking when you have your wheels off. Easy solution is to chuck the shims away as they didn't seem to make any difference. A bit of coppa-slip or ceratec does the job just as well.

Exactly Doug, I'm pleased I changed the pads

The original Caparo pads on the nearside caliper were also running just over the edge of the disc, this created a thin lip on the pad which probably wasn't a massive issue but suggests the pads weren't fully seated in the caliper that side. The thin lip of pad material was breaking away and I guess this debris could potentially find its way to somewhere you wouldn't want it, the Caparo pad grooves were still present but weren't far off disappearing so while it looks like I probably could have got another 5,000 miles out of them it was definitely a good idea to replace the original 13 year old pads.

FYI I purchased the fitting hardware from Brands Hatch Morgan, the spring clips look the same as Princess but Caparo just used a better pin design, for anyone wanting to reuse the spring clips (not recommended) you will need to compress the clips as I found they catch on the pinheads when you punch the pins out. Before realising this, as we can see I wrecked the clips on one side, but no big deal as I had the new clips to go in which along with a good ceramic grease is all essential to do the job properly.



The Princess fitting kit is actually readily available for £6.25.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/33543227...r=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

But of course it comes with split pins (Princess arrangement), so as my original Caparo pins were well past their best this time I bought the £25.00 kit off BH Morgan, the pins do corrode so I'll turn up a set in SS so in future I'll just need to buy the £6.20 fitting kit for its fresh spring clips.

The new Mintex pads do need a good workout before I can give them my full endorsement but they definitely bite really well from stone cold and feel great at the pedal, there's zero noise so far too but I can't comment on dust until I've exercised them properly. l'll be giving them a good session at Prescott next weekend, and will then put 1,000 road miles on them before I make my final appraisal.

One thing is for sure, pad compound technology has come on a long way in 13 years, the shims in the Caparo pads had slipped, the pads weren't properly seated on one side and the friction material was getting near to end of life too. If these new Mintex MRM1802 pads stay quiet, don't dust excessively and retain the lovely pedal feel then I'll definitely be keeping them.

From my admittedly limited testing so far there's no question they have a better bite and I'd expect this to get even better when I properly bed them in next weekend, critically they work perfectly from cold and of course the heat range looks excellent on paper too. I conclude while £85.92 is expensive for a set of Princess pads, they do have the potential to be a very cheap brake upgrade for Morganeers running Caparo calipers.

I'll update this post as I continue my evaluation

Dave.

The lip on the standard Caparo pads is a well known "feature" due to the "design", and needs checking at each service.

Agreed Dave, as do the spring clips as they do seem a bit soft and not very springy (perhaps they temper themselves with the pad heat ?) as you could potentially loose a pin

BTW, Cain at Wolf will supply clips and pins loose at a very reasonable cost