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Needless to say beautiful evening, took Sue out for a spin for an hour or so, stop in Lytham to go for a walk. Get back in turn ignition, warning lights come on turn key further nothing lights go out and immobiliser flashing at me. Bugger. Try a few times wriggling the key no luck, I remember so posting about immobiliser and doing something with the keys, so we get a taxi short distance home, get second key, jump in Sue's car, try 2nd key and more of the same. Bugger.

Needless to say the only time I have RAC recovery is when I have a Morgan. Ring them, few hours later, he goes thru his mantra, battery ok, fuses ok, cant get starter to work, no furl pump or fuel injection.......must be immobiliser....exactly what I told the RAC when I made the call as to the likely fault. Nice chap, used to work at TVR in Blackpool, so we had a good old chat whilst he did hid mantra. Now 10.40pm he goes off shift shortly so can't take the car to Mat at Lifes. I spoke to Mat at home to see if ok to deliver car to garage in early hours of the morning and where to put the keys, we did some fault finding but no joy whilst I waited for the RAC. Excellent of Mat to take my call and help out at that time of night Next RAC up date, expect flat bed up to 5.20am and I had to stay with the vehicle. Bugger. Fortunately RAC decide to use a local recovery service, waved goodbye to car and just had confirmation car delivered at 1.13 am. Whilst Matt may well have dealt with this before, I sent a link to DaveW post on immobiliser ring proximity to Mat just in case.

We were stuck outside a pub and everyone liked the car, we just wished it worked. I've done nearly 1000 miles in the few weeks I've had it, more than a fifth of the total miles from new on the car registered August 2012. So this has tested my forbearance just a tad, along with the two taps its had whilst parked, might be telling me something. The only blessing at the moment is it could have happened in the middle of no-where, pissing it down with rain.

If it is like the s1 Roadster the fuel pump relay powers the ecu. It looks just like an immobiliser failure

flat batteries in both key fobs?

Immobiliser light still flashing and on a Duratec!

By any chance have you dropped your key’s and the chip fallen out of the key, it happens ( I carry a spare chip in the car). Try your spare key.

I believe later cars only have RFID transponder chips in the key fob. Long thread here

Yes immobiliser light flashing and its a Duratec! We got a taxi home and collected and tried the spare key, no luck.




Just in case it is the transponder ring, did I read correctly that you have the capabilities to marry keys with a new transponder ring? Just in case that's the solution!!!!!!!!

Where is the chip, is it at the end of the key plastic body with a plastic oval cover over, next to the metal part of the key?

The flat bed driver was chuffed his first Morgan, mind you he had a brand new Porsche GT3 on earlier this week, similar problem wouldn't go electrical issues..........seems the sunny weather and ypu want to use your car brings these things on.

I haven't heard of any Duratec sensor ring issues but if the spare key didn't work, and if wiping the fob over the sensor ring doesn't work, it's maybe a bad connection around the steering column?

So sorry to read of your issue John.... what a bu*mer.. Hope you get it sorted out soonest, and have time to build back confidence in it before the weather breaks.

The transponder ring is generic so not matched to the key or chip, the chips are paired to the immobiliser embedded within the ecu. I have successfully married new key chips to ecu's, here.

The Duratec or Ford transponder ring is normally very reliable. As Dave mentioned, the first thing to check would be the connector on the ring.

Already spoken with Mat at Lifes, he's very aware of the issues on the immobiliser and workarounds etc, has stripped all the dash , steering column down and nothing obvious, especially as both keys not working .He pointed out if the keys are dropped the glass inside the fob can break but the transponder can still function intermittently.

The car has only recently just come out of of nearly 5 years storage, so we don't know what electrical gunge /build up could be present on different components/contacts etc.

So an auto electrician is coming to test it all out, he can re-programme as necessary.