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It's perfectly possible to fit 'motorsport reg' grade roll over protection and relatively easy to fit an adequate single roll bar ... doesn't look great unless you go the whole hog for a racecar lookalike style (which may well suit some owners) ... hard to see how modern roll over protection could be integrated into the trad shape without massive incongruity.

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Originally Posted by Image
It's perfectly possible to fit 'motorsport reg' grade roll over protection and relatively easy to fit an adequate single roll bar ... doesn't look great unless you go the whole hog for a racecar lookalike style (which may well suit some owners) ... hard to see how modern roll over protection could be integrated into the trad shape without massive incongruity.

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I’m searching for roll over protection for my 2022 Plus Four if anyone has any leads. So far I’ve come up blank.

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Sorry Dave ... just haven't got my head round the existence of the new-fangled aluminium ones!

My comment refered to all the trads out there.


If no-one has yet come up with a roll hoop for them it surely won't be long ... as for the 'oldies', Librands do them as do Safety Devices (well known in the racing world ... have a full SD cage in my MG) .... worth asking or they might put you on to someone.

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Give Henry at Williams a call he will be able to point you in the right direction.


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Thanks both … will do :-)

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Something track compliant for CX's must be available as I've seen a few out there as 'racers' perhaps a call to the MMC Aero Racing dept ?


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Originally Posted by CooperMan
Something track compliant for CX's must be available as I've seen a few out there as 'racers' perhaps a call to the MMC Aero Racing dept ?

Williams had a racer at MogFest with a decent roll bar. I would start with them.


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So shiny is currently sitting in the parking/garage in Positano whilst I perform a few tasks. Italians are among the few nationalities that genuinely love cars top to bottom. When I put it in for the first time (after three hard days squishing flies on the road down) they washed it without being asked. Or charging for it.

Accounts are splendid things to decipher. I suspect we have a few on the forum that can read them better than me! From my shallow pool of understanding it does appear to have taken a whack in order to sort things out on the balance sheet. Makes it a clean sale right? Just need to put a bow on it. As Geely/SIAC etc turn the car market into an offshoot of eBay with a thousand brands selling the same nuts and sparks we will need something to love.

1. Whilst figures have gone up it is interesting to see the "stock" and where it is now, how many are ex-dem/low mileage sitting at the dealers?
2. As mentioned moving numbers around to take tax advantage elsewhere and optimise is a smart thing?
3. It does feel like it is becoming more forward looking than interested in historical family, born out by my recent parts issues on the Aero.
4. If they are looking to sell on it would be good to clear out in 2023 and get a good 2024 to show progress for a potential new buyer, but who would that be in this climate? Things have changed quite a bit in the last few years. As mentioned above, prey for it not being another battery transplant. Even the little-adjacent MG Cyberstar would mean instant rejection by me, same as the various Not-a-Lotus cobblers.

It is easy to assume all these Chinese companies are doing well but if you peek under the cover the fiscal climate in China has become stressed recently.
As always the content in on the interweb so no warranty is provided but Much of what this chap mentions seems sensible.

This seems more deliberately negative but is worth it for the intrigue. Broad content across China as a whole.


I would love to know what the R&D spend is outside of (very good) fresh pencils for the design team and better spanners and parts selection.

May we live in interesting times.

I could look at a modern 911 or even an old one but how you are treated when you turn up almost anywhere in the Coupe makes every trip feel special. Driving up the little one way road out of Positano in it brings more joy and smiles which I don't think I will ever get used to. Yes the air con failed on the way down. Yes it broke down again (not its fault, poor local petrol) and Mr Borghi was as kind and quick to offer assistance as ever. Don't care, driving it along the coast road can't be beaten for an experience. Hard to smile at the moment for a few reasons but this trip has knocked the whole edge off it, because of the Coupe and its little bubble of love. I do hope they don't gaff it with any next transition.


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Having spent the bulk of my career dealing with companies globally, reading the MMC financials I don't see light at the end of the tunnel.


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Despite China being the world's second-largest economy and home to the most billionaires, China is still categorised as a "developing" country and enjoys the same "special and differential treatment" afforded to nations like Papua New Guinea and Zimbabwe.

Key points:
The WTO does not have a framework to define a 'developed' or 'developing' country
It is entirely up to the "good faith" of individual members to self-allocate themselves
This has led to controversy over China having experienced massive economic growth
Beijing maintains that it sees no reason to give up the self-declared status at the World Trade Organisation (WTO) — or its perks — claiming the preferential treatment is a "fundamental right".

China is the "largest developing country" in the world, even though the Asian superpower has a GDP of $US14.2 trillion — in comparison, Australia's GDP is roughly $US1.5 trillion.


There is increasing pressure growing to remove the benefits of China's developing country status, to make it more a level playing field on exports.

Secondly, more and more car manufacturers are bucking EV vehicles (often responding to public demand) and reducing their EV programmes and introducing more ICE and their derivatives, into their production lines going forward. I see a growing pressure to allow ICE engines to continue post 2035 probably based on green fuels. This may reflect the inability of green energy production to generate sufficient electricity to meet future demand as we reduce reliance on fossil fuels for transport, home heating etc..

I personally cannot see eg EU countries allowing a massive revenue generator and employer like car manufacture to disappear from their economies. Also the Chinese economic bubble will eventually burst, its National Debt is over 3 times its GDP, its housing market close to collapse, its control over precious metals supply lines is being constantly eroded as new deposits of key materials are being discovered outside of it's sphere of influences, reducing reliance on Chinese controlled materials.

In addition the development of non lithium batteries eg cheaper sodium batteries will undermine their competitive edge in EV vehicle production and control over raw material supply chains.

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