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Does anyone know if the Sports versions of the plus 4 from around 2010 to 2015, including the Super Sports have more boot space than Plus4 from the similar era that have the spare wheel?

If so how much more space do you get and how easy is it to access?

Many thanks.

Marcus

PS. I know this is a very nerdy question, but I’m 5’11, my wife’s 5’5” (maybe relevant for seat position, and we have a border terrier we want to bring along, but not in the footwell.

Mac, 5'11" should fit with room to spare unless like my brother you seem to adopt a laying down position in the car! Boot space is I'm afraid to say identical as the rear bulkhead is in a fixed position and the rear floor/shelf will have been fixed and glued so is not removable although some have modified theirs and fitted the tool tray which you will either need to make or purchase. Where the spare wheel would go is open to the elements beneath the body skin and it also doesn't have the spare wheel carrier fitted. Best option is to buy the sports rear rack and an optional spare wheel mounting bracket. this then gives you the option to carry a spare wheel and using boat type bags you can strap them to this for better capacity. If you choose to travel without a spare wheel do not use the squirty temporary repair can if you have wire wheels!

Oh! Marcus forgot to say, many of us take our dogs and they sit wonderfully well on the shelf behind the seats. Fit an anchor ring through the rear bulkhead and use a safety harness to secure your furry fiend!

I had a 2011 Plus 4 Sport. I used the void under the flat back panel for storing the sidescreens and a storm cover, plus a few tools. I then had a couple of boxes/baskets on the rear shelf to carry other items.

Thanks for all the information. Why do you say not to use the spray foam on wire wheels?

I’m just interested. On my motorcycle and sidecar I have 4 inch inner tubes filled with a green gloop (can’t remember the make) as I can’t carry a spare and changing an inner tube is impossible by hand (I’ve tried), the sidewalls are too stiff. So genuinely interested on what options to deal with flats when out exploring, apart from using the spare.

I'm just over 6' and heavy build and fit into the Plus 4 sport ok. I would also look at the hood arrangement whether its a traditional hood or easy up hood, as the easy up hood takes up more of the rear parcel shelf, having said that you have to find somewhere to store the trad. hood itself. Whilst the easy up hood arrangement encloses the 3 sides of the rear parcel shelf forming more of a higher barrier to the rear, the trad hood arrangement leaves the rear of the car much more open, lower and more exposed

My experience of touring with both hood types is that the easy up provides more space, by sitting on top of the body tub, it adds a couple of inches. The studded hud takes up a lot of space when folded, and there is less height behind the seats. Either way, if you don't cover what's behind the seats with a quarter tonneau cover, it will blow about. Those of us of shorter stature can gain a few inches behind the seats, and that is very useful, because it's a tall space. We keep the storm cover in its bag in the passenger footwell, because that alone is bulky, and often stored wet. But being in the footwell makes it very handy.

I wonder if sewin is referring to tubeless wire rims. These require a carefully applied thick layer of special sealant to cover the inner side of spoke nuts. I guess the foam may react with it and would certainly leave a mess.

Personally I stay well away from the product which just hides punctures.

Yes Richard V6 is spot on, that rubber gloop is a nightmare to clean up even if you can get a fitter to remove the tyre when you tell him that you've used it! The sealing rubber on the internal side of a modern wire rim is soft and relatively fragile ( it seals the spoke nut ends from leaking air) and you really do need to treat it with respect. Also never tighten a spoke using a spoke spanner as this will tear it ,a also when removing a tyre, the tyre should be removed from the rear of the rim and not the outer wheel face as is traditionally the way fitters do it as the tyre can damage the seal as it is removed.
And like Richard I just wouldn't go near the stuff! It will only repair the smallest of damage and its not a fix, rather a get you out of danger or home if home is close!

Might consider using it if I was leaving Syria today and had a flat!