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Have seen it. It’s fantastic. To see it is to know that it’s fantastic. It doesn’t require any design explanations. It just is evidently impressive. Hard to overstate how much of an improvement it is in every conceivable way. It will be huge for the company. A legitimate cross shop option for 911 and Vantage buyers. I expect significant waitlists on orders within months of the formal announcement. I imagine another big jump in orders when journalists get to have a poke around in it. Whatever hopes or expectations I’d had for it were surpassed. My overwhelming emotion on seeing it was immense pride for the team that worked on it. Their pride was evident as well. They didn’t have to justify or explain anything, the car speaks for itself. I’m sure some of you will continue to decry that it’s not made of Stone Age materials and that Morgan has lots it’s way since the days they were held together by gum and prayers, but those of you who love cars and driving will be smitten. I will absolutely be getting one. Sooo, is that why your Mog is for sale ?? I thought is was the dogs blocks and a keeper ?
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Have seen it. It’s fantastic. To see it is to know that it’s fantastic. It doesn’t require any design explanations. It just is evidently impressive. Hard to overstate how much of an improvement it is in every conceivable way. It will be huge for the company. A legitimate cross shop option for 911 and Vantage buyers. I expect significant waitlists on orders within months of the formal announcement. I imagine another big jump in orders when journalists get to have a poke around in it. Whatever hopes or expectations I’d had for it were surpassed. My overwhelming emotion on seeing it was immense pride for the team that worked on it. Their pride was evident as well. They didn’t have to justify or explain anything, the car speaks for itself. I’m sure some of you will continue to decry that it’s not made of Stone Age materials and that Morgan has lots it’s way since the days they were held together by gum and prayers, but those of you who love cars and driving will be smitten. I will absolutely be getting one. Spencer thank you very much for yet another uplifting post full of your Morgan exuberance. Your commitment to buying one speaks volumes for the new model so thank you once more, I can't wait to see it now.
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Evidently being launched in February…
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. I’m sure some of you will continue to decry that it’s not made of Stone Age materials and that Morgan has lots it’s way since the days they were held together by gum and prayers, but those of you who love cars and driving will be smitten. I find this sentence quite interesting from someone who seems to state, in the video prepared by Morgan Motor Company, that "I don't want to be a consumer of things but to consume stories matters" and you go on to say that you'd like to leave your family with stories. In the first instance, I don't believe I've ever heard someone on this site 'decry' the lack of Stone Age materials in the CX cars; furthermore, unless Morgan produced a Flintstone's-esque stone car, with wooden axels and foot power, I don't believe it is a fair assessment. However, what I have read are stories of continued poor quality control and Morgans that are more challenging to work on and self-maintain, all the while the price climbing. These, in my opinion, are neither unfair or, being frank, not new in the nearly two decades I have had the pleasure of being part of this world. I am not someone who works on my own car but I do have respect for those who do; furthermore, I appreciate and understand that this is part of their "story" of ownership and no less important than mine. You mentioned family in your video and one thing I never experienced was working on a car with an older member of my family and that is a regret. Personally, I admire those who spend time working on anything mechanical with their children, friends and family. In speaking with those, who are equally passionate about cars, some of their best memories were formed in these experiences; working on a car with a parent, or grandparent, are memories that are both cherished and hugely valuable. All add to the rich tapestry of the story that is car ownership. Morgans, have never been held together with 'gum and prayers' but they have always felt authentic and genuine. Should MMC stray away from authenticity and into realms of pastiche, I truly believe something of value will be lost both culturally and, more relevant to them, commercially. In closing, you state "those who love cars and driving will be smitten", I believe, if you spend the time to get to know some older owners, you'll find that is the universal reason most have ended up with a Morgan, CX or not. By inference, you seem to infer that those with Stone Age cars don't love cars or driving but I assure you nothing could be further from the truth. I look forward to the grand reveal and hope it takes what is special about Morgan, builds on that and embraces greater levels of quality control.
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It's misquote time............................... There are many rooms in my Father's house. I wouldn't tell you this, unless it was true. I am going there to prepare a place for each of you.What is true that each of us has a place in Morgan. What is also true is that there are some Morgan models which I would not touch with a long stick. It was ever thus. But everybody is happy with their choices, and that's all that matters 
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But it also reflects the change in attitudes where people increasingly are falling out of love with possessions and looking more to create memories.......Patek Phillippe has a slight different twist on this as it infers you are only the custodian of the watch for the next generation. It's all nice marketing blurb to make you part with your hard earned money.
Morgan can't stand still it has to evolve, especially if its former ownership core is slowly dying out and the qualities of Morgan ownership experience they enjoyed is not shared as widely with prospective new clientele. There will always be a supply of used trad Morgan's for those that prefer that more hands on raw vintage ownership experience, and for those that want a different but equally rewarding experience may enjoy the later offerings.
I know over time I will migrate from a trad to a CX as simple practicalities like can I still get in it will overtake me as it does everyone at some point in time, an auto with power steering would allow Sue to drive a Morgan again , which she struggles with in a later trads.
The important thing is there may be a Morgan out there, that extends my ownership and fellowship of kindred spirits experience.
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Evolution will always worry some folks, let’s just wait and see you never know you might love it..
Reminds me of when our three were growing up saying I don’t like some food or another and when you challenged them turns out they hadn’t actually tried it 🤣
Spencer has actually seen one and judging by his previous Plus Four video is a man of quality and exceptional taste.
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Morgan can't stand still it has to evolve, especially if its former ownership core is slowly dying out and the qualities of Morgan ownership experience they enjoyed is not shared as widely with prospective new clientele. There will always be a supply of used trad Morgan's for those that prefer that more hands on raw vintage ownership experience, and for those that want a different but equally rewarding experience may enjoy the later offerings. This exactly matches my thinking. An old trad suits me perfectly. I like to have a simple (crude?) car that is cheap to run and which I can wholly maintain myself, and I see no need for luxuries (fripperies?) such as come with the CX cars and their ilk. But to imagine that this is (a) what most owners want, and (b) is what MMC should still be making is just daft. There are more than enough old Morgans already available in the marketplace to suit the likes of me. If MMC see their future in the manufacturing of very special sports cars in the £100k+ bracket then jolly good luck to them. I will look forward to seeing them, though there is no chance of me ever being able to afford to buy one even if I wanted to.
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Where can I find this mentioned video prepared by the Morgan Motor Company?
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