If the factory won't take a CX as part ex, the end is just a matter of time. How long can they supply new cars into a limited market, which they are now reducing further by both the factory, and the dealers not taking CX as part exchange. Crazy marketing.
Morgans as daily drivers need a 1970's mentality. I had Midgets for quite a while as daily drivers at a time when comparable saloons were often rubbish anyway. But now its a different game.
DaveW '05 Red Roadster S1 '16 Yellow (Not the only) Narrow AR GDI Plus 4
Jono, your post(s) should be compulsory reading for every prospective Plus Six buyer.
I am reminded of when (at age 28) I bought my first TVR, a 3-litre Taimar. It was new from the factory, on a personal import to Switzerland where we lived at the time. My experince was somewhat different from your Plus Six, I drove it straight from Blackpool to Zurich, I used it as a daily drive for about the same length of time as you (3 years), including Alpine trips, then sold it when we left the country. The build quality, mechanicals, finish/trim were first class, it didn't leak, and the performance was superior to my current Roadster. After that I have had numerous other cars including 10 more TVRs, so it must have left quite an impression......
As to residuals (and yes of course the market is way different now), I recovered pretty much what I paid for it, including import duties etc. It was refurbed by a Swiss dealer in the 1990s, and I believe is now being used in Germany. Your Plus Six sounds like it was an "out-vestment", we are all forewarned now, thanks.
Peter 2009 3-litre Roadster "Ivor", royal ivory / green
One last thing, it was an Audi Dealership who took it in PX against an RS product. They admitted they didn’t really want it but they fudged the figure. Be interesting to see where it ends up.
IMorgans as daily drivers need a 1970's mentality. I had Midgets for quite a while as daily drivers at a time when comparable saloons were often rubbish anyway. But now it’s a different game.
I think you have hit the nail on the head.. people’s expectations have changed massively and the demographic that would put up with the experience is diminishing.. I am 40 and had a Morgan as a daily driver for 19 years and even I have a Renault 5 on order for local runabout.. it will be luxury compared to the Morgan in the winter and hopefully a bit of fun too
If I had the disposable income to buy a new Morgan I would.. but few have the disposable income to do so..
As a used car, CX's are toxic...... 🤷🏻♂️ no dealer in their right mind would want to tie up the money when there is no market for them.
You would imagine that it would be a fairly fundamental and basic feature of a motor car that you could use it where and when ever you wanted, perhaps every day...........especially if cost £100k+....!!!🤷🏻♂️
The supersport won't be any different...... let's not kid ourselves...... I know there will be those who won't hear a bad word said against Morgan, but come on....in the real world we all know they are 'flawed'....! But....... the complexity of Aero's and CX's will make them hard to use, fix or maintain going forward.....!
You can fool all of the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time............ When 'all of the people' cotton on, MMC's new marketing policy may fail.....!!!!😆
As a used car, CX's are toxic...... 🤷🏻♂️ no dealer in their right mind would want to tie up the money when there is no market for them.
You would imagine that it would be a fairly fundamental and basic feature of a motor car that you could use it where and when ever you wanted, perhaps every day...........especially if cost £100k+....!!!🤷🏻♂️
The supersport won't be any different...... let's not kid ourselves...... I know there will be those who won't hear a bad word said against Morgan, but come on....in the real world we all know they are 'flawed'....! But....... the complexity of Aero's and CX's will make them hard to use, fix or maintain going forward.....!
You can fool all of the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time............ When 'all of the people' cotton on, MMC's new marketing policy may fail.....!!!!😆
By a trad.....while the prices a low......
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Not great or MCC or Morgan owners.....
A Morgan Identified Fastidious Owner... 2011 4/4 Bespoke, 1981 Delorean, Auburn Boat Tail
I've just sold my Morgan, the clutch was just becoming too much for me especially in traffic, sad in one sense but I don't think I will miss it. I spend most of yesterday in the wife's SLK roof down, air con on, even in E mode it was a blast around Lancashire countryside and then found myself inching my way thru Blackpool rush hour traffic in the low 30c temps, which would have been hard work in the Morgan.
I did .consider long and hard whether to go with an auto CX, but the more I read the less inclined I became. The CX is a massive improvement in many ways over the Trad, but unfortunately the Morgan engineering is IMHO it's weakness and invariably lets it down. It's something that not unique to Morgan other manufacturers have major flaws in vehicles in the same price range. The only difference for me is some of the fundamentals (some might consider it character or charm or part of the Morgan experience) eg the hood that still struggles to keep the cold and wet out, fasteners snap and its not even double or triple lined for comfort and to lower noise when up. Not really acceptable in todays world and to add insult to injury the water ingress may spoil all, that lovely leather work. Ok back in the days of rubber mats but not in nicely upholstered interiors they fit these days. For me the most fundamental change the CX bought about was not having to find somewhere for the grease gun and rug to lie on every time you went away on holiday.
I understand exactly why so many are enjoying their CX, with a new reality that values will fall and potentially longer term like with the Aero's, fixability and spare support may pose a problem, then again some may not worry too much and just keep trading in for a new one every 3 years or so, so it becomes someone else's problem not theirs. further down the line..
I'm also sure that many would enjoy open air motoring as much with other marques as I have for over 50 years of motoring roof down. I had just as much fun within a very low performance envelope in my Midgets and TR7's back in the 70's and 80's as I have ever had in my Morgans and those BL basic crude hoods never let rain, draughts or snow in. Fun is not the sole preserve of Morgan, and that's why I always buy convertibles.
I did wonder where Hammond had put the driver's side screen as he had filled the boot with his luggage, not a problem or even a consideration with wind down windows.
I'm sure Morgan will survive, but it may become more low volume, more exclusive, niche and upmarket, where residuals and maintenance costs don't feature in the buyers equation
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