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Yes it's well done by HIGNFY crew..


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Originally Posted by Graham, G4FUJ
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Meanwhile back on the Insel we have our own village idiots gaining in popularity banghead

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That's a very clever bit of photoshopping as far as holding a pint goes -perhaps an AI piece...

Hard to believe anything these days given our sources of information have been infiltrated to the extent that lies are accepted as the new truth... ?


I do not see man`s inhumanity to his fellow man as attributable to any one nation, given the examples abound across many nations. I remember being told that it was us Brits who created the first concentration camp during the Boer war...?

As I have typed previously, I follow a young lady m/cyclist as she rides around the world, just so happens she is currently in China, and took the time to visit a camp in Harbin, where during the Japanese occupation of that area the camp was used to carry out unmentionable medical experiments of members of the general populace. After the Americans cleared the camp, apparently they kept all the results of the research, and no one was seemingly held to answer for the atrocities...?

Don`t think you need to look to far to find another would be dictator and a tribe of many followers who seem to have the will to badly treat folk of colour, perhaps even put women back in their place..?

I think it was Pol Pot in Cambodia who decided that if one wore glasses one might be a threat as an intellectual, thus should be executed....

I do wonder at leaders who gather sycophants around them and in the process replace hard won wisdom with ignorance....Hmm..?

If interested in the Japanese camp in China you can beam in at 18 mins in to the video.



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Of course George you believe what you choose to fit best but it has always been so, as a vacuum of news such as you and I lived through due to very little media output unlike the deficating enormity of today left you in the same situation.

At least we lived under our firms motto "No Information is always better than false Information".

So no help todays kids with not a vestige of common sense but 4 A levels they can't decide whether they need the can or not. just dither..

Do read Leon Uris QB VII also Dr Mengele's vile experimentation on women in the Gestapo camps.

We did invent the Concentration Camps but others utilised them to further dehumanise the poor souls that were incarcerated there by carrying out medical experiments on them to further accelerate the Arian Race.

So I totally disagree with you - some nations including the Japanese and Chinese actively enjoy such practises.
You just watch one of their abysmal TV game shows - now that is sickness personified.


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Originally Posted by +8Rich
Of course George you believe what you choose to fit best but it has always been so, as a vacuum of news such as you and I lived through due to very little media output unlike the deficating enormity of today left you in the same situation.

At least we lived under our firms motto "No Information is always better than false Information".

So no help todays kids with not a vestige of common sense but 4 A levels they can't decide whether they need the can or not. just dither..

Do read Leon Uris QB VII also Dr Mengele's vile experimentation on women in the Gestapo camps.

We did invent the Concentration Camps but others utilised them to further dehumanise the poor souls that were incarcerated there by carrying out medical experiments on them to further accelerate the Arian Race.

So I totally disagree with you - some nations including the Japanese and Chinese actively enjoy such practises.
You just watch one of their abysmal TV game shows - now that is sickness personified.

As for firm beliefs, not sure I have many of those. Totally disagreeing, and making the point of informing those I disagree with.... Hmm..? I think I might mostly avoid doing so.... Perhaps my nature is somewhat flawed....(-:

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It is a current sickness that people are not happy about expressing their point of view George, we are all different thankfully - I spent most of my career changing old farts working procedures for newer methodology, sure they were unhappy as their leisurely pace suited their state of mind but someone has to lead and get the job done on time.

Had they had a vestige of get up and go they could and should have seen me off 😎


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Originally Posted by +8Rich
It is a current sickness that people are not happy about expressing their point of view George, we are all different thankfully - I spent most of my career changing old farts working procedures for newer methodology, sure they were unhappy as their leisurely pace suited their state of mind but someone has to lead and get the job done on time.

Had they had a vestige of get up and go they could and should have seen me off 😎

I had not realised that I might be unwell, other than the usual old man issues... (-: I guess my natural failing might be that unless pushed into a corner, I seem unlikely to attempt to become forceful to any degree... But as you rightly typed thankfully we are all different..

I was not always a BOF, but content to be regarded as one such these days. I well remember the BOF`s and my initial thinking relative to them when I first entered employment, with my last company at age 27 in what was a rather dynamic ever evolving environment, the pace of which seemed to accelerate exponentially with the passage of time, until I became the BOF.... All of which seems no more than natural progression... I suspect we all may be no more than products of our age and experiences..? (-:

I feel most fortunate to very rarely have been in a situation to make a stand, but have done so with a mix of failure and success.... As for my thinking on being an admitted BOF with other than belligerent tendencies, I kinda like the following analogy.. I thought my father a fool when I was 15 years old, and was amazed how much HE had learned by the time I reached the age of 21... (-:

Suspect there is fortunately a worthwhile place for us BOF`s in any society..? (-:.

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Well I thought this was the space for BOF's once I saw gomog on here posting George.

My late Father was a brilliant pilot his Log Books tell me, but at everything else he made a complete mess of his life - so once again we have opposing views as the only thing I ever listened and learnt from him was flying.

That and not having a mother from 18 months made me robust and independent - the only advise I heed is from my wife btw,, the rest is static on the air waves.

The exception being Arwyn for all things Morgan, he is the real deal.


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Originally Posted by +8Rich
Well I thought this was the space for BOF's once I saw gomog on here posting George.

My late Father was a brilliant pilot his Log Books tell me, but at everything else he made a complete mess of his life - so once again we have opposing views as the only thing I ever listened and learnt from him was flying.

Sorry Richard, the mention of gomog flew over my head, ( no pun intended) though happy to type that Lorne and I are of a similar age, and that I counted myself fortunate to have enjoyed his friendship and company in times past..

My mention of the father and son was no more than a generalisation and in no way related to my own father who was a far better man than I could ever be...

Opposing views are not an issue for me, they hopefully add to my wider education, though I well understand that those who might expect others to believe in that which they themselves believe in, and to the same degree as they do, may by their nature may make their point a tad more forcefully, perhaps dependant on their frame of mind while typing.... Shrug.

BTW, I learned the "shrug" from conversing with Lorne on the MSCC DG in the mid 90`s, seems he was well ahead of the game before it became obvious that it was all to simple for poor punctuation skills to entirely alter the perceived intended meaning of words initially typed, long before it seems the much needed smiley faces and their likes exploded onto the scene...(-:
In serch of a measure of synergy, at least you, Lorne and I favour the same old Rover V8 powering our Morgans... (-:

As always, each to their own works well enough for me....

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It's all about sloping shoulders of the Civil Service or Private Enterprise really and I have experienced both, PE wins every time as you are enabled to think and make decisions on your own two feet.

Complying with the greasy pole of the CS was not for me and they were very tolerant of me during FMD as I actually got things done and changed relative to their standard malaise of constant agreement for fear of retribution and in general they were weak people (lifers we called them) exceptions being some of the vets that were not only good at what they did but also stood up and got counted when change was called for.

I made some very good friends during FMD, mostly Farmers and vets, it was a sad unique situation that is being rerun now with Bluetongue and all the farmers have my utmost sympathy.

Meeting up with a fair few last Saturday at the Kingsbridge Show sans livestock bought back sad memories as we recalled those bad days and they told me of their mixed stories of blue tounge.

The problem being the Government being behind in production of the vaccine, so animals and farmers suffering unnecessarily once more due to their ineptitude.


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Originally Posted by +8Rich
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Being of Polish Jewish stock I shall never unsee the glass cabinets full of spectacles and shoes of children in Auschwitz - don't ever ask me to forgive the Krauts as the simple fact is they are easily led and to this day love a uniform.

They had destroyed my Fathers family before his eyes so he walked to France, hitched a ride across the channel on a French boat (even then they could be bought for a bottle of scotch) and fronted up at the nearest RAF Station letting them know he wanted to fly a Spitfire and kill Krauts as he was 16 and had already learnt to fly in a Jungmeister ironically in Poland so he got in a Tiger Moth and showed them how it should be flown to the absolute limit side slipping his way in to a three pointer.

His dreams were realised many times over although the pain would never heal for him I'm sure but he thoroughly enjoyed the whole experience and flew up until his untimely death at 64 having instructed hundreds of pupils as a CFI of two Norfolk Flying Groups.

So good luck with the AfD a little enlightenment for the unknowing..


The Hitler regime inflicted unspeakable suffering on many nations!
Although I was born after the Second World War, I have repeatedly been confronted with it directly in my professional life.
For example, from 1990 onwards, I had an office at the ‘Schule am Bullenhusener Damm’ for several years, and during that time I tried to make young people aware of the atrocities.
Here is some background information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullenhuser_Damm

On a personal level, too, the crimes of that era have certainly had an impact on me:

In Germany, there is the term ‘Kriegsenkel’ (war grandchild).
I first heard this term a few years ago.
It took several more years before I recalled a sentence I’d heard from my mother as a young boy: ‘When we fled across the frozen lagoon back then’ (‘escape across the Frische Haff’).

This experience of a little 11-year-old girl in January/February 1945 explains a great deal.
(Flight, winter (-20°), fear of the approaching Russian soldiers...)

I have now learnt through conversations that many other people (often even younger than me) have also been shaped by their parents’ traumatic experiences.

These experiences have not necessarily allowed the childhoods of generations following the Second World War to unfold in a positive way...




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