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#644709 06/16/2020 7:41 PM
by hugo
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I have been driving the 3 wheeler out and about over the last couple of weeks and the car has been gradually pulling to the left more and more. Today a loud knocking appeared from the front of the car, on inspection i found the top mounting of the the upper wishbone was catching on the bodywork, it was then i noticed the crack on the chassis just behind the top mounting, i checked the other side and it is also cracked! The car has had the bolt in reinforcing bar since 2014 and the lower strengthening plates in 2018 so i would advise anyone who has not had the 2014 chassis upgrade to check their cars regularly as it seems the bolt in bar does not provide a long term solution, my car has done approx 11k miles. I have sent messages to MMC and i will report back on the outcome.
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#790734 Nov 25th a 05:44 PM
by gomog
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Originally Posted by Stevo666
"[i] Well the Super 3 has its issues as detailed on other threads on this forum but the scary one is the failure of the rear hub bearings - not an issue if they fail while pottering around town but when they fail while your in the Swiss Alps on a pass, well that's just scary - and more worryingly MMC knew about the issue from the first months of customer cars being released yet just informed dealers to check the hub when the car came in for a service....Luckily the owners affected didn't suffer a major accident.

Thank you. I was not aware of any issues. [i]Forgive me. The more I age the more I become an unabashedly trad person. Not much interest, aside from concerns for the marque and a residual interest in business decisions.

Have they found a cure for the bearing problem yet?
Originally Posted by Stevo666
So although the new management may on the face of it be providing an improved level of care...

Yes. They have already spent many millions and more to come with the now defunct M3Ws. The sums will be much greater than what they paid for the entire company.
Originally Posted by Stevo666
they are still falling short when engineering issues that affect safety are not being rectified immediately - So sounds very much like the same situation as the early years 5 speeder owners found themselves in - so in reality nothing has changed at MMC

Sad to hear. Not to defend them, we could say one cannot reverse 20 years of a different management style after only a short period with the same staff (bless'em). I also imagine they were occupied with the CX Recalls during the pandemic. BIG job.

In the current world, the only thing consumers of anything are fed is advertising copy, constantly rosy public announcements and slavish worship from the local media. That is what makes facts are so refreshing these days. We only have a few reliable sources, occasionally people like yourself like (thank you) and Companies House numbers, properly interpreted. (Ignore its preamble )

Originally Posted by Stevo666
And MMC wonder why the Super 3 is not selling.... innocent
I am also...innocent It is a discordant note in my fledging hopes. frown

Why not ask them these questions? Regardless of the current business practices in society, it is much more comfortable to buy from a Company that is open and opulently stands behind its products,. That is very much in the old tradition that originally built the legendary reputation and Morgan mystique. I like that.

gmg
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#790771 Nov 26th a 10:45 AM
by Stevo666
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Have they found a cure for the bearing problem yet?

Believe so - its called procuring a bearing fit for purpose rather than procuring a sub standard/cheap product (aka 5 speeder..) - there were rumours that having a rear hub bearing with grease inside it was an optional extra...

Ref CX recalls - the recalls(?) were all post Covid? And still radiator issues occurring today on the upgraded/repaired plus sixes...

As to sales of Super 3 - or lack of - many months ago one of our clients who is in the EU dealer network suggested that it had been said that the Super 3 was costing more to build than MMC could sell for - which is scary when you consider new Super 3's are currently advertised at dealers already £10k less than launch price....

Ask MMC - I have had a few lengthy conversations with Mark Baldwin at MMC regarding the chassis cracks and associated failures on behalf of clients but he wasn't able to offer a cost effective solution (£15k for a chassis change on a 2013 car is not cost effective) so we had to devise our own chassis upgrade which to be honest makes the front end of the 5 speeder so much more stiff/stronger than even the MMC replacement chassis - all done at less than a third of the MMC price.

Please note that I really do wish MMC to be successful but some of the mistakes still being made at every level are so frustrating to see....
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