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New Cars with cracks in the Headlight cowls...
The attached photos were taken of the headlight cowls on a brand new 2013 +4 after the car was parked in the sun for an hour.
Both headlight cowls developed a split in the same place along the join to the body big enough to slide a credit card into. When we examined the car a few day later in the cool of the evening the crack had substantially closed. Morgan claim it is to do with heat and humidity – sounds reasonable.
There have been 3 new Morgans (+4, and Roadster) in Australia so far with the same problem.
No doubt heat is a major contributor but if this can happen on a mild autumn morning in Sydney, I hate to think what may happen when we get some real heat.
As the northern hemisphere moves into summer (hopefully soon) this may be a real watch point for all owners of new Morgan cars.
Has anyone had any experience with this?
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Seems like I may have some more detail and photos today. Will keep you posted. 
A Morgan Identified Fastidious Owner...
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Interesting question Gerry. The brand new Sydney based +4 owner has been covered under warranty (he was just grateful the repairer held firm and insisted on a proper repair job) but I am not so sure about the other two new cars, should hear soon.  Surely MMC should pick up the tab for this- well below the quality one should expect for a new car. Gerry.
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The Sydney one has been fixed and the owner is most relieved. I was with him when we discovered the problem. The poor guy was shattered, as you would be after spending around A$ 120,000 to have this happen.  There were however other Morgan drivers with us to console him.  Eventually got some colour back in his face and a normal heart rate.... Interesting to see what happens with new Morgans in the Northern Hemisphere. It there much welding or glue in a 3 wheeler? 'Morgan claim it's to do with the heat'? And?
And this shouldn't have happened and we'll put it right? What are they doing about it?
We've all had cars in high temperatures - this doesn't happen.
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Seems to be a common patten developing here  As Charles said quite deliberately I think at the Talk Mog visit whilst ignoring the issue of failing windscreens. The cars are "hand assembelled" not you will note hand built.
Frankly as I head for retirement I wonder if I would exchange my car for a new one. I am sceptical seeing all these faults that the marketing dream (& incidentally always my dream) of a bespoke car that was loving hand built to an acceptabel quality can be delivered.
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One could imagine, that in classifieds in 15 years or so it will be noted:
"A very nice pre Three Wheeler era Morgan Plus 4"...
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One could imagine, that in classifieds in 15 years or so it will be noted:
"A very nice pre Three Wheeler era Morgan Plus 4"... 
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Well lets hope the affected cars get fixed soon and Morgan sorts out the manufacturing problem so it does not happen again.  Hate to be cynical, but most likely they have changed the filler they use for one that costs less. In the end these decisions often cost more 
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You can't beat a bit of traditional lead loading!
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Thought I may have some more news today but I am told it may take a little longer  The Sydney one has been fixed and the owner is most relieved. I was with him when we discovered the problem. The poor guy was shattered, as you would be after spending around A$ 120,000 to have this happen. There were however other Morgan drivers with us to console him. Eventually got some colour back in his face and a normal heart rate.... Interesting to see what happens with new Morgans in the Northern Hemisphere. It there much welding or glue in a 3 wheeler? 'Morgan claim it's to do with the heat'? And?
And this shouldn't have happened and we'll put it right? What are they doing about it?
We've all had cars in high temperatures - this doesn't happen.
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T Shirt weather Richard, Morgan Identified Fastidious Owner T Shirt weather, they are on order and I hope ready for the Perth bash...   I agree heat is the cause but NSW in autumn is about the same (lower?) than a UK summer's day.... 
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