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Do you like this Morgan Trad 2+2?
Originally Posted By: Gambalunga "0n more than one occasion I have thought that it would be quite easy for Morgan to build a 2+2 as an option instead of a 4 seater. It could have optional child seats and belts but more importantly without seats it would have more space for touring luggage. The rear line could be halfway between a 2 seater and a 4 seater and the hood could have a more attractive design as it would not have to accommodate the height of adults in the back seat or luggage space (much like the TC). It could be complemented by a rear tonneau/luggage cover and have a slot behind the luggage space for sidescreen storage (like the Sport) and an optional narrow (space saver) spare wheel mounted completely MG TC? externally. Ideal for people with small children or dogs, or people who like touring. Development cost almost zero. A sort of cross between the MG TC and the trad Morgan." That was Peter's (Gambalunga) thought (posted in another TM's thread) about a Morgan Trad 2+2. As I'm very interested in the design of 4-seater and (2+2)-seater Trad-Morgans, I decided to design a similar car in accordance with his "desiderata", and showed it on the thread. "Lovely Claudio. Just what I had in mind" was his reply. But differently from Peter, I'm convinced that Morganeers are not 4-seater or (2+2)-seater enthusiast; They are only fond of the 2-seater Trad-shape (IMHO); and I say more......even they have to travel everywhere with their old-fashion/big suitcases put on a chromed rack fixed to the rear back of their cars...(and all that is neither confortable nor safe), it is so ....a "period" experience... that I think they, ultimately....,.love it, and don't want to change their habit. So to solve my dilemma, I just decided to open a new thread about that, hoping to read your opinions....... I kindly hope Peter (not me) was right! Cheers Claudio __________________________________ Visit Italy see my Flickr site : only Morgan Sportscars (photoshopped) pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/claudiobardeggiabrandi/sets/72157649032962866/ cars & motorbikes (photoshopped) pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/claudiobardeggiabrandi/sets/72157623861460615/
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Nice looking apart from the wheels. They just look a tad flashy. My thoughts exactly! Oh man! I LOVE the flashy wheels And the purple bonnet strap 
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Claudio I think this is spot on although I would personally still have black wire wheels. At the moment ourmogging is day drives and a thrash the pants hour or two out but when we get time to do proper touring this concept would be perfect. In fact as a narrow body I think it would hit the spot.
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Beautiful from the moment I saw it. I have never wanted to own the current 4 seater but this is stunning. The gap between the current 4 seater and this beauty doesn't look too wide from where i'm sitting, so maybe Geneva 16.
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Excuse me if I'm late to reply, but I was out for a long weekend to my sister's country house without laptop and smartphone for a complete relaxation. But, what a pity, the weather was not fine...! I'm very grateful for your interest in my work and I thank you for your messages. Moreover I'm very impressed by your general acceptance of this proposal, since I was prepared for more criticism. Probably our common friend Peter (Gambalunga), as a Morgan-Trad owner, knows exactly what he (and the other Morgans' owners) needs and wants.......... so it was easier to design a proper car following his wishes. I hope to read even more comments about this car as, to me, they are a real contribution to understand the Morgans' world; I also thank you for all your hints, and, please, feel always free to criticize my designs..... For wire-wheel fans.........I've done this little adjustment! Look at it and I hope you like it! https://www.flickr.com/photos/claudiobardeggiabrandi/16736051834/in/photostream/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/claudiobardeggiabrandi/17170791678/in/photostream/(Really the car was sketched, from the very beginning, with wire-wheels, but then I wanted to change a little its classic looking and give it an up-to-date looking; so I put on some chrome-rims and added a non-conventional colour sof-top (acid-green), so different from the body colour, as, I know, they don't match toghether at all. Designers often need to explore new possibilities and new roads). Cheers Claudio __________________________________ Visit the EXPO; Visit Italy see my Flickr site : only Morgan Sportscars (photoshopped) pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/claudiobardeggiabrandi/sets/72157649032962866/ cars & motorbikes (photoshopped) pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/claudiobardeggiabrandi/sets/72157623861460615/
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Now I'll take one with wire wheels!
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"Perfezione"
(Courtesy of Google translator!)
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She looks very good and I was pleased the very first second I saw her. She transforms the trad values into a GT like car which is a comfortable choice/alternative for all travel longer than just a fee days. I would not have more than two persons in mind, perhaps kids for a funny trip around the block. But the luggage gets it's space properly.
Claudio, is it possible you could post a picture hood down? Only to have an idea if the harmonic lines are kept as well when the hood is down.
TBH, if not planned as a series this car should be a payable option for a one off, at least to show her at Geneva.
Regards, Heinz. Hi all, better late than never...... https://www.flickr.com/photos/claudiobardeggiabrandi/33237341802/in/dateposted-public/Hope you like it. Ciao Claudio _________________________ Visit Italy
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Claudio,
looking VERY good... a question: did you alter the angle of the rear panel to make it more upright than the trad, so giving a bit more space behind the seats?
I've long thought that this area is wasted space...the back doesn't want to be upright, like the 4 seater, but could, I feel, take a more upright angle.
DW is right, most Mog owners are tourers, not racers, which is why I so like my Plus 8, it is effortless. Just lacks storage space and the suspension tunnel means there is even less space than in a +4 or other trad...
Peter,
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No longer driving Tarka, the 2014 Plus 8...
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Absolutely approve and can imagine buying one. Someone suggested 200hp and that would be about right. But how to overcome the politics of Claudio designing it and not MMC?
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