The thing is AQM, I think we mostly just don't understand why you view this forum if you find almost everything on it offensive. We're a bunch of (mostly) chaps who merrily love morgan cars, merrily criticise them, merrily disagree and sometimes get merrily cross, but it's not worth being cross all the time and most of us are mostly looking for good humour and good information and helpful advice. I can't see why you bother with us. Maybe you might see why we find it hard to bother with you. Just thinking though, maybe we could change from fish jokes to bacon jokes, then you will have done us a favour. Nick