Sorry guys I tend to think of a vehicle as a machine that is pleasant to drive in the majority of conditions.

I got the loan of a 8 year old VW van recently drove 200 miles picked up items and spent a few hours there. I then drove home 200 miles and it was a nice drive.

No problem at all.

Any other cars I have driven in the last 30 years would be the same but not able to carry as much.

I have drive a good number of the Pre 90 Landrovers and after 20 miles I want out. Noise is not acceptable, comfort sorry not even trying, cold and damp when it rains.

In saying that I know many who think they are better than that.

If that is your opinion great, sorry as offroad hacks yes, buying one for every day roads use not for me.

Last edited by Eddie Cairns; 25/02/16 10:16 AM.