Hello Phil,

as I read your post, a shiver runs down my spine because something very similar happened to me this year; not on ice though but on a wet and slippery road AND in my best friends car which I picked up for him at the dealer...
I needed a crane to get the car out of its misery but the damage to my self esteem was the worst part...
Nothing serious for 30 years and then this. I felt like an idiot.
Well, I learned from this too and I was very glad that my friend did not rip off my head for hurting his car...
We both took the car on the same road in the same weather a week later with ME as a driver to fix my trauma...

Safe roads to you all!!!


The hills are alive with the sound of...
...MORGAN