Roger , I had the privilege of being beside this when it started up at Biggin Hill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKDSVZzgJOM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvQivwYczvQ

When I lived just south of Munich a JU 52 used to give pleasure flights from the old Munich airport. They were fun to watch.

JohnV6
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