Originally Posted by JohnHarris
Auto boxes have moved on so much these days, they are far more interactive and involving without the need for a foot pedal. The Plus Four automatic is actually marginally faster to 60mph and slightly more economical than the the manual, demonstrates how far things have moved on.

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Involving? I would have thought they were the exact opposite and thats certainly what I found in two previous sports cars and the family transport. The temptation is to leave the flappy padles alone and use full auto, in which case I dont see much difference to Peter's EV. Thats why when I updated the Ferrari, I didnt update so much as down date back to a manual.