How does accusing someone of being dishonest correlate with not supporting them?
since they choose to ignore the fact that several people was before others, yet they didn't receive the offer the latter come'rs did. That's dishonest in my book. It would just be dumb luck if it was an error, but to ignore it. That's dishonesty.
You are one of the people trying to argue that one shouldn't be harsh to someone whose core market segment is people on here, and especially not an upstart. And since that is all you, it should be quite easy for you to see why I wrote that you want people to only be positive towards this (or other) upstarts.
If you can't see the problem in that attitude and how it invites positive-only remarks and people being taken in, it's your loss.
Your words are somewhat contradictory? And in fact incorrect, as I seem to recall that Mogmag offered to look into one of the more obvious discrepancies. However, this isn't about the specifics of whether Mogmag are good or evil (please don't quote this, it's a figure of speech!) it's about what we here (and of course I speak for myself, but I do have a good understanding of the type of forum visitors here like) feel is somewhat vitriolic with no real proof as such. We generally prefer the live and let live ideology but also welcome good healthy debate and even criticism, but draw the line at unproven accusations.
You also misquote me, which I abhor. I did not state that "that one shouldn't be harsh to someone whose core market segment is people on here, and especially not an upstart." I said that by calling someone dishonest and amateurish in front of their core market is "not allowing them to flourish" (cant remember the exact words, can't be bothered to go back and look). So if you're going to keep arguing, please get your facts right!
Give an opinion by all means, but measure your response according to the facts in hand.
I did, and I do. Unlike you, I don't make up apologist argumentation because the company in question targets us and that the product is about another product we love.
Maybe you generally do, but you
didn't IMHO. Oh and thanks for your insight into my argument. I must say, either I really am not making myself clear or you really are finding it hard to follow a simple point?
And please stop whingeing about only giving positive remarks; nobody and I repeat nobody, is saying that.
Perhaps you should reread the posts. First of all, I'm not whingeing. Secondly, if you cannot see that if we were to follow your argumentation and "advice", that is all we would be left with, then - again - that is your loss.
I can't be bothered to re-read all the posts, I have a reasonable take on this now. You are definitely whingeing however. At least that's how it comes across to me.
Many people have expressed unsupportive opinions and questioned the new publication; but only one person has incurred the wrath of at least three others with the way he has conducted himself and by littering his protestations with profanities. Maybe that gives you some indication?
It gives me the indication that some of you are way holier than thou when you whine about me using "profanities", when you think you get to dictate just how I wrap my arguments, and it gives me an indication of just how entrenched you are when you can't see an argument when it's staring you in the face, but have to resort to attacking the style:
I mean, when all else fails, why not use an argument of popularity and claim that because you and two others doesn't like the way I present my arguments, therefore I must be wrong.
Yup, that's the indication I'm getting.
I never claimed you're "wrong" I claimed you had no proof of what you are accusing, and that you were out of order for using the words and the vitriol that you did. I claimed that nobody else was as unfair in their criticism and that's why no-one else has been 'called up' for objecting.
And as for the 'holier than thou' attitude, why accuse "some" of us? I'm the only one who brought up the profanities? And I can swear like a trooper, I work on building sites after all. I always feel however that if someone has to resort to profanities on an Internet forum then they are losing a lot of weight to their argument. I guess I must have a better command of the English language (oops is that 'holier than thou'?)
You really are prolonging this aren't you?
Not at all. I'm just not naive enough to fall for the rhetorical trick where you pretend to have an entitlement to some sort of "last word" merely because you write you're "done with xxx" or similar.
How immature of you to think that? I would say that please feel free to have the last word, but I do reserve the right to post again, should the feeling take me.
