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I am thinking of fitting a scuttle roll bar to my 1981 plus 8 but am a little concerned that i may lose some of that flexible feel that the car has, does anybody have a view or experience of this conversion.
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Originally Posted By v8jules
I am thinking of fitting a scuttle roll bar to my 1981 plus 8 but am a little concerned that i may lose some of that flexible feel that the car has, does anybody have a view or experience of this conversion.
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It is a very good project and worthwhile.

Click http://www.gomog.com/allmorgan/underscuttlerollbar.html

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I had a 1994 4/4 without the bar & now have a 97 +4 with the bar.
I would say it is worth doing as the shuttle shake is reduced & safety is improved.


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Thanks john, is this now a factory fitment ?

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Thanks Lorne, great web site by the way, its been a god send for me.
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Originally Posted By v8jules
great web site by the way, its been a god send for me.


Yes it is, a real wealth of information for owners of Traditional Morgans! thumbs

As a matter of interest, have MMC added this as standard on any of their models? If so, which ones and when was this safety feature added?

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Originally Posted By Simon
As a matter of interest, have MMC added this as standard on any of their models? If so, which ones and when was this safety feature added?


As Morgans became non-compliant in many countries in 1971, structural improvements became a must for their importation. However, Mr. Peter Morgan would not get involved in non-UK compliancy so the Agents in other countries who remained became federally licensed as auto manufacturers in their own right!

These Agent/manufacturers would disassemble the Factory Morgans on arrival, and alter them to pass their more stringent safety tests. (In the case of the US only, there was also an issue with emissions.)

The only thing sure about world safety standards is that they all go in the same direction. What happens in North America and Australia and New Zealand simply happens earlier. Because of that, most of these Agents' modifications have been taken over by Factory since, and are now installed as stock and keep all trads on the road this day.

The under scuttle roll bar is a 1970's creation of Bill Fink, the Morgan icon in the United States. The idea was to provide a cabin roll safety area, serve as a protection for side impacts and act as an anchor for reinforced doors. The door hinges are bolted into the roll bar rather than a wooden post.

By the 80s, UK racers started using them as it was found that they steady the handling remarkably. At that point, the Factory began offering them as an option for everyone and a standard for cars exported overseas..either downunder or west. They became a stock for ALL trads a few years ago.

Having been rear-ended quite severely, I can attest that they act as life-safers, especially when fitted with the barred doors and their hinge assembly.

The company producing pre-1997 under scuttle roll bars is Safety Devices in the UK. They do not do a post-1997 version (or at least not when I talked to them a couple of years ago). The post-1997 versions have to account for the lack of under scuttle space in the long door models and are shaped differently.

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Sound like a none brainer to me, into the garage and get one fitted, many thanks all
Jules

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Having answered that question, what is the opinion here on roll bars behind the seats? They surely must offer good protection in the event of a roll-over and I would feel much safer with one above/behind me. What I have in mind is not the competition cage but the stainless steel road roll bar. The hood will fit over these. I rang Librands who do make one, and there is a considerable labour bill involved as they estimate 11 hours to fit. Total cost is likely to be over £1100 so it is not a minor decision!

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Thanks for asking - I've been eyeing up those as well....

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