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Very interesting Jays. Thanks.
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Whooeee! Gold painted overiders to match the wheels 
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Bet that roll cage helps with any distortion too! 
Graham (G4FUJ)
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These are the points that Williams use when using axle stands or their hoists. Picks up the strongest points of the chassis and prevents any distortion.  That looks as if a lot of the weight will be up front especially on a +8 or roadster? 
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The only time I have had all four off the ground was while the +4 was in motion!
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haha - me too in the 68 when I went over a small humped back bridge at a fair old speed, came dowm with a bit of a crash 
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That looks as if a lot of the weight will be up front especially on a +8 or roadster? +8 engine is all alloy - not as heavy as you'd think. Axle stands are on the joints of cross-members and Z sections, plenty strong enough.
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If you add in the weight of the back axle, some fuel and the propshaft and gearbox, it probably all balances out and as Martyn says, the V8 is not that heavy. I read somewhere...MGB I think, that the Buick engine was lighter than the B series 4 cylinder!
The points shown in the photo are also used when lifting the car on a hydraulic hoist so I'm sure it is quite well balanced.
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If you add in the weight of the back axle, some fuel and the propshaft and gearbox, it probably all balances out and as Martyn says, the V8 is not that heavy. I read somewhere...MGB I think, that the Buick engine was lighter than the B series 4 cylinder!
The points shown in the photo are also used when lifting the car on a hydraulic hoist so I'm sure it is quite well balanced. Will use these points next time rather than the rear and front off the chassis. 
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Both these positions are as I suggested in the other jacking thread - fronts on the triangulation at the bulkhead corners, and rears under the spring hanger and set belt mount crossmember.
But to raise the rear, you'll need two jacks if you want to use those points to lift. I wouldn't do one side and then the other - too much twist on the chassis. I'm not too keen on using the diff housing, as its a long way under, and can slip easily unless you have a cupped jack pad, and you'll need a long reach jack. It also puts a load on the diff casing joints between the tubes and the casing. So for me it's safer to use the rear crossmember. At the front, there's limited space to jack in that spot and then put axle stands in the same spot. Given that the weight of the car is taken by the front crosshead, it's more than capable of taking the load when jacking up.
Just be very careful because they can slip, and you can do untold damage if you get the jack in the wrong place.
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