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Hi all, What do you think about the (entry level) Caterham Seven 160?  Is the Caterham Seven 160 the right solution to the issue: to have a low buying&maintenance costs and high fun-to drive (second)car? Wondered why not a (entry level) Morgan 3-Wheeler (powered by a mass-production jap engine) or even a (entry level) Morgan 4/4 (powered by the Suzuki engine 3 cil turbo fitted in the Seven 160)?  Regards Claudio _____________ Visit Italy Morgans and other ……. http://www.flickr.com/photos/claudiobardeggiabrandi/sets/72157623861460615/
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Well Budster - that was very gentlemanly of you!! What's been done to yours to make it so naughty?!
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[quote=Jays] Roger, I also had a full Librands sports exhaust system fitted and a 4.1:1 competition diff. Mid range acceleration was improved but you had to rev past 4000 to get the benefits. I could just about hold off Budsters 1.8 4/4 , pesky little thing!  Well Budster - that was very gentlemanly of you!! What's been done to yours to make it so naughty?! Stanley has a totally standard 1.8 Zetec engine and no transmission mods. 32,000 miles on the clock, a Morgan dealer service each year, so just nicely run-in! Jays is a good friend and I actually felt slightly guilty after that particular incident, as he had just had the throtle bodies fited! We were on our way from his home to Prescott and as we exited each of a number of roundabouts on a dual carriageway, the tempation to overtake was considerable!!
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[quote=Jays] Roger, I also had a full Librands sports exhaust system fitted and a 4.1:1 competition diff. Mid range acceleration was improved but you had to rev past 4000 to get the benefits. I could just about hold off Budsters 1.8 4/4 , pesky little thing! Well Budster - that was very gentlemanly of you!! What's been done to yours to make it so naughty?! Stanley has a totally standard 1.8 Zetec engine and no transmission mods. 32,000 miles on the clock, a Morgan dealer service each year, so just nicely run-in! Jays is a good friend and I actually felt slightly guilty after that particular incident, as he had just had the throtle bodies fited! We were on our way from his home to Prescott and as we exited each of a number of roundabouts on a dual carriageway, the tempation to overtake was considerable!! Well it seems like both you and Stanley were true gentlemen that day! :))
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I have just had a thought.  As Stanley started life as ( just*) a Runabout, it has reduced louvres on the bonnet. So; maybe better aerodynamics?  ps * refers to a comment made by a well known member of the MSCC in the carpark at the 2009 Centenary Celebrations in Cheltenham. He would not have liked to have heard what the lovely Lady Budster thought of him. Though I think her description was probably accurate! 
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I have just had a thought. As Stanley started life as ( just*) a Runabout, it has reduced louvres on the bonnet. So; maybe better aerodynamics? ps * refers to a comment made by a well known member of the MSCC in the carpark at the 2009 Centenary Celebrations in Cheltenham. He would not have liked to have heard what the lovely Lady Budster thought of him. Though I think her description was probably accurate! I have to say that I'm quite fascinated by louvres now. At a recent Devamog meet up in Llandudno onw of the other members pointed out that he has one less louvre on hi right hand bonnet to his left side! Pure individuality! We then started counting the number of louvres on other cars there and there can be quite a variance in the number on a bonnet but I haven't worked out yet whether it is model dependent, year dependent or just how many they felt like punching on the panels that day!!! Poor Stanley - he's not a "just" - he is a Morgan! Well done Lady Budster!
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Roger If you have a few hours to spare, can I suggest that you enter the word "louvres" in the Search facility. You will see that it has resulted in some hilarious discussion in the past.  ps Referring back to the original subject. Even though I was an employee of Suzuki GB for many years and love the little 657 3cyl (Cappuccino) engine, if it was my Caterham 7, I would choose the Ford Sigma engine. Having driven a 7 with it fitted, it is (IMHO) superb.
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Roger If you have a few hours to spare, can I suggest that you enter the word "louvres" in the Search facility. You will see that it has resulted in some hilarious discussion in the past. ps Referring back to the original subject. Even though I was an employee of Suzuki GB for many years and love the little 657 3cyl (Cappuccino) engine, if it was my Caterham 7, I would choose the Ford Sigma engine. Having driven a 7 with it fitted, it is (IMHO) superb. I can see Budster that I need to set a couple of weeks aside for that one! Just adds to the fact that lots of people thing Morgans "all look very similar" but are in actual fact very individual and completely different!
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Probably because they're not needed..?
Morgans are classics with heritage in my eyes, not a pastiche pandering to the yoof of today (or even tomorrow..) or even a cheap Lotus Seven look-alike or wannabe.
or probably.....because they weren't needed? ..... as all changes quickly in the Global Market, even a little car Company (with heritage)-as MMC is- must, in case, faces up to competitors dangers..... and with regard to your second statement, I believe that, after forty years and more, a Se7en is only a Se7ven....as a Mini is only a Mini..... The personality and -consequently -the name of the car put the Trade-mark logo (Lotus or Caterham)in a subordinate position.....(IMHO) Regards Claudio _____________ Visit Italy Morgans and other ……. http://www.flickr.com/photos/claudiobardeggiabrandi/sets/72157623861460615/
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