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by OldSkrote - 31/07/25 02:07 PM
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My guess is that you may not get or maintain sufficient alignment to get a perfectly balanced assembly.
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The transient torque loadings are the problem with the S&S engine. It seems that they are truly massive and even Centa were surprised by how difficult it was to smooth things out enough.
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From memory the absolute torque loadings peak at around 1150 lb/ft. Quite scary!
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From memory the absolute torque loadings peak at around 1150 lb/ft. Quite scary! 1150?! How can that be?
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From memory the absolute torque loadings peak at around 1150 lb/ft. Quite scary! 1150?! How can that be? Extremely short spikes of torque. The normally quoted torque figure can be thought of as an average over a couple of revolutions of the crank. The inertia of the mass of the crank will help smooth things out compared to a lightweight crank but the S&S needs more help than most.
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From memory the absolute torque loadings peak at around 1150 lb/ft. Quite scary! 1150?! How can that be? It can't. He's never been the same since the sausage sandwich thread Oi.........I like my sausage sandwiches Mike! I was a tad out on the torque......a quote from Andrew English article in the Telegraph. "At the heart of the Three Wheeler is its V-twin engine from S&S of Wisconsin, USA. Known as the X-Wedge and introduced in 2007, this 1,982cc, dry-sump unit has a 56.25-degree angle, a solid, forged 43lb crank for longevity and engine balance at idle and three belt-driven camshafts to allow almost straight pushrods. Retailing at approximately £6,700 in the States, this two-valve, fuel-injected unit punches out 115bhp and 100lb ft of torque with peak revs at 5,200rpm. It’s like a Harley unit but better: S&S has been in the engine business since 1956 and is highly respected. The trouble is, torque kills transmissions. S&S says it produces torque spikes of 1,800lb ft, which makes the gears clash and sing against each other. Reeves and his team, together with S&S, have adapted a Harley-Davidson mechanical cushion drive, which successfully irons out the firing impulses. The engine sits on a rubber-mounted bed plate and the stainless steel exhausts have flexible couplings and mountings. Start her up and you see a lot of movement, but the cabin and major controls are stock still."
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I'm still waiting for the dealer to get back to me on whether or not a grease nipple can be fited. That's been a week with no answer from Morgan.
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"S&S says it produces torque spikes of 1,800lb ft, which makes the gears clash and sing against each other..." Blimey. If that is so, no wonder the word 'humungous' was invented.
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I'm still waiting for the dealer to get back to me on whether or not a grease nipple can be fited. That's been a week with no answer from Morgan.
Tim In the words of Monty Python - a week, you were lucky! I'm at 2 months and counting......
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Sounds like a question for Mark. Have you tried the help line Mike?
Paul [At last, I have a car I can polish]
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