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The like-for-like replacement is covered for legally under consumer protection. The 'upgrade' to the latest one is not & will be viewed as such under due process.
Whether you view the original as 'fit for purpose' will be a court room argument requiring much evidence.
Any legal expert will tell you it's far better to enter court on the basis of how much it will cost you, not a principle.
It's up to you Karl, but I'd be attempting negotiation first..
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Karl even though your car is out of warranty the most you should be asked to pay is the difference in cost between fitting original again & fitting new Centa compensator not the whole cost.
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Agreed ...its the ££ difference IMO - not the full amount.
The original Comp is not fit for purpose ...so lots of negotiating power there.
I would speak to the factory first ...they are reasonable in my experience.
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i had a broken compensator. i paid for the upgrade and they paid for the labour (which they would have done for a like-for-like) i thought that was a perfectly reasonable result for a small manufacturing firm. someone has to pay for all the work of continuous improvement of the vehicle.
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That is quite true Charles, but the question really, is whether the orignal item was a faulty design in the first place, and therefore "not fit for purpose and of merchantable quality". which is what we paid for.
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Well I'm quite willing to pay the difference for the "upgrade". As I certainly don't want like for like as it has become bothersome wondering if I'll make it to the bottom of the road with-out another failure happening. I have also requested the rectifier be mounted in the 3rd new place now. Also the cooling-fan.
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Oh forgot to mention. Tried contacting the factory with-out success. I know they have lost 2 sales of the M3W because 2 blokes I work with were really stoked about buying them. Told them wait until at least number 1500 rolls off out the door, not like me with number 6
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Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, I really like your humour Mike.
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a problem of their own making .... you could be considered one wheel short of a road going vehicle Oh most definitely. I'm on Compensator #2 which is on it's way out as it's sounds exactly the same as Compensator#1 did before it's dramatic failure. This is less than 1500 miles after it was rebuilt by MMC BTW - Compensator#2 was packed full of grease but no grease zerk after the factory rebuild. My local Morgan Dealer drilled and tapped one in and it made not a blind bit of difference after 15 miles. I understand everyone's point of view but as I am out of warranty, don't want like for like and am thoroughly fed up as I just want to drive my Biscuit Tin without it sounding like a demented banshee throttling canaries I will stump up the readies. I think this is because the Maserati has also decided to play silly buggers too. The only reliable vehicle I have is a '92 beaten up old FX-4 London Taxi that's been to the moon and back that I bought for 600 pounds. All in all my advice to anyone with the greased up Compensator is to get the Centa Drive. These are like the Love Joy couplings we use at work. That's my 2 pence worth
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I spoke to a dealer today to book my car in for the annual service and we got to chatting about the Centa unit.
Apparently it needs a completely different fly wheel, which is lighter and therefore improves throttle response and also has a centre actuated clutch release bearing and not the fork type used on the old style compensators.
This is why it seems to take a long time to fit and costs so much.
Grease part number is: 4003/2017 Tanks for that DAB !
I don't just drive from A to B. I enjoy feeling the cars reaction, becoming part of it-Enzo Ferrari
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