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Is there Morgan guidance on when the timing/cam belt should be replaced? Is replacement of the belt covered by warranty if it is needed before that time? Does anyone have have the Morgan "do this at that many km/miles checklist?"
The reason I ask is that I brought my (2013 model) car in to the dealer for routine service at 1300km (8100 miles) and they replaced the timing belt, at my expense, saying that it needed done soon anyway per morgan maintenance schedule.... But that seems awfully early to me!
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Actually, they replaced the timing belt, timing belt tensioner pulley, deflection pulley collar, and pulley with collar on the motor. Sorry for some potentially strange terminology. Translated from Germany.
The dealer is saying that Morgan prescribes to change the whole timing belt set with pulleys, etc... at 14,000km.
Is this normal? To replace not only the belt but the pulleys as well?
Does anyone have access to what the official Morgan guidance on this is?
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Please ignore - I replied not seeing it was a 3-wheeler.
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@nputtick As this is posted in the 3Wheeler section I assume the Mog is less than 3 years old.
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Belts have been breaking at all sorts of mileages, and often well below 13,000 km. There are various threads on the subject in this forum, with heat being a likely cause but it doesn't appear completely clear.
I've seen something suggesting that the belt needs to be changed at about 14,000 km if it shows signs of wear, and many of them have been looking quite ragged at this sort of mileage, so the dealer may have done the sensible thing (although they should have told you about this before doing it).
Wearing parts aren't normally warranty items but this is obviously a grey area as cam belts on most vehicles don't normally need replacing at 13,000 km either!
I'm surprised they needed to replace other parts unless they made a complete mess of the job, but others may know more about this. They would have needed to move these parts to get the belt on and off but that's not the same as 'replacing' them.
How much did they charge you for the entire job? The belt seems to cost about E140 or thereabouts. Sounds like another nasty bill or a complex little do-it-yourself job... There are some great instructions posted already but it didn't look all that easy and requires some special tools to make the job relatively straightforward. I expect it's one of those jobs that is quiet easy when you've done a few...
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630E for belt and pulleys, not including labor.
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Yes, it's a 2013 @nputtick As this is posted in the 3Wheeler section I assume the Mog is less than 3 years old.
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Wow! I guess labour was another 200E or thereabouts! That must have been a pretty scary bill in total with your rear sprocket too!
I nearly bought an Aston Martin DBS a few years ago but didn't fancy the 2,500E annual service bill. But a 3W is getting pretty close to that if you're unlucky.
I very much hope that your little car starts to behave itself now, and that 'fixes' for these rather expensive items that are lasting quite ridiculous times are found.
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If it's not forthcoming write to them yourselves.
How long do you think it will take to get an answer. I would not hold your breath waiting!
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I found an S&S Owner's manual online: http://www.sscycle.com/files/7113/7033/9290/106-3756.pdfPage 5 has the service intervals and for the timing belt is inspect every 10,000 mile (16,000 km) and replace at 30,000 miles (48,000 km). I'm not sure if Morgan follow these recommendations or have more frequent inspection/replacement......
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