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little bit like counter steering on the bike.
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Came v close to rolling mine into a ditch this week due to big understeer. Checked tyre pressures at next opportunity but they were spot on. So I bumped them up to 28 psi which sharpens the turn in and helps a bit with understeer. Will be very interested to hear anyone's experience of alternative tyres.
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Can tell you from practical experience:
Increase the tyre pressure and the understeer is mostly gone. But you have to push the gas pedal down as well...
I orient the M3W driving style on my motorbike experience. Very similar to riding a heavy touring bike (even more fun!)
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now: Red 4/4 Sport; 2011
and some practical cars for use in real life
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Adding the Blockleys along with the Comfort Kit dramatically changed the handling in positive ways. I run the Blockleys at 25-28 psi. Understeer is practically gone but not quite. I feel far more confident in pushing this car through turns. This car will drift quite nicely given the proper road. The tires are car tires with stiffened sidewalls and that makes all the difference in the world. Yes, I push this car hard and use the gas pedal aggressively.
The Avons are sidecar tires and were never designed to take those steering forces. They act like floppy noodles. I found myself in a bike pack and some of the riders were very astonished that Morgan used those tires at all for this car!
What's your mileage? Who cares. Is it practical? See #1. What happens when it rains? You get wet.
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Adding the Blockleys along with the Comfort Kit dramatically changed the handling in positive ways. I run the Blockleys at 25-28 psi. Understeer is practically gone but not quite. I feel far more confident in pushing this car through turns. This car will drift quite nicely given the proper road. The tires are car tires with stiffened sidewalls and that makes all the difference in the world. Yes, I push this car hard and use the gas pedal aggressively.
The Avons are sidecar tires and were never designed to take those steering forces. They act like floppy noodles. I found myself in a bike pack and some of the riders were very astonished that Morgan used those tires at all for this car! My findings exactly. The next thing to sort out is the rear tyre. I dont think its grippy enough - power is easily wasted doing unwanted wheel spins. We need to be using that power, not wasting it.
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Yes...motorbike tyres can be quite interesting! 
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Wow that has deformed. I assume it isi a tubed tyre as the wall bead seems to be off the wheel rim.
Last edited by John V6; 14/03/15 12:34 PM.
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And on Avons ... 
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The next thing to sort out is the rear tyre.
I dont think its grippy enough - power is easily wasted doing unwanted wheel spins. We need to be using that power, not wasting it.
I think the rear tire is just about right. It took me almost 2,000 miles to really get a handle on finessing the car so it wouldn't break loose or scratch except on my command. The real problem is weight. With only one person the rear is too light. With two it is just about perfect and does not spin out nearly as much. Did some experimenting with and without passenger as well as using sandbags. Basic handling improved with the added weight as well. I, personally, don't want a sticky tire back there. As I noted this car will drift sweetly as is in a very controlled manner. Losing that would sadden me...
What's your mileage? Who cares. Is it practical? See #1. What happens when it rains? You get wet.
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The next thing to sort out is the rear tyre.
I dont think its grippy enough - power is easily wasted doing unwanted wheel spins. We need to be using that power, not wasting it.
I think the rear tire is just about right. It took me almost 2,000 miles to really get a handle on finessing the car so it wouldn't break loose or scratch except on my command. The real problem is weight. With only one person the rear is too light. With two it is just about perfect and does not spin out nearly as much. Did some experimenting with and without passenger as well as using sandbags. Basic handling improved with the added weight as well. I, personally, don't want a sticky tire back there. As I noted this car will drift sweetly as is in a very controlled manner. Losing that would sadden me... Comes down to different goals I guess, or even differnt driving styles. I am not interested in drifting (although I acknowledge it can be fun) , I want to power out of corners in full control.
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