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Can anyone out there with an early (pre-war) 4/4 help me please. I am having a new hood made by a local trimmer and all is set to go ahead except we have no idea about the hood frame webbing.


How wide is it?
How is it attached to the frame hoops?
Is it fastened to the body at the rear, if so how?
What is the distance between the hoops with the frame in the raised position?
What keeps the frame up when the hood is on?
Can you recommended a webbing supplier?

Photographs and/or drawings and measurements would be a great help

Many thanks


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Can't answer your questions directly but be careful. I doubt any car has survived 70 years in the original state.

I would rather think the 1972 4/4 I had was rather similar, and I replaced the webbing on that. The webbing was fixed at the rear of the car.

I used webbing from this firm.
Woolies hood webbing

Depending on colour of car and or hooding, I'd be tempted to use beige or fawn, the black takes a very long time to fade and those colours are nearer what one imagines original webbing to have faded to.

The 'what keeps the hoops + webbing up' is simple, the hood. The forward-most hoop is held up as is it cannot go further forward because of the webbing and cannot go backwards as the hood restrains it. If you have the hoops in place, hinge it to about the right place, then hinge it back. The hood would have to have a huge bulge for it to go backwards; so it doesn't.

If your trimmer has made a hood for any sports car, he'd know all that though.

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Thank you so much for your reply. I have had great difficulty getting information due to lack of published photographs or other forms of reference. The information is a great help. Thank you

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Was there any such thing as a standard hood prewar ?
Most if not all purchased their car and then went to the
hood provider of their choice . Many where never fitted with hoods.

regards Chris

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Originally Posted By Sinbad
Can anyone out there with an early (pre-war) 4/4 help me please. I am having a new hood made by a local trimmer and all is set to go ahead except we have no idea about the hood frame webbing.


How wide is it?
Approx 2.5in

How is it attached to the frame hoops?
You should have 3 hoops this depends on how many sections your hood is made of hoop for the rear two sections
ie. from rear body to height is the rear window section , then up and approx to highest point somewhere above front of axel followed to approx rear of doors .
It is measured that the hoops are inline with the hood stiching there are two lengths of webbing one above each seat . You need a loop stiching in each one where they touch the hood seams and should be tight when pulled ( that is 6 , 3 for each side ) so the hood bars can slip through them . The webbing can be fitted to the carpet above the petrol tank pull the topof the carpet off and stich the webbing on once you are 100% sure and when pulled up should be tight . With the webbing in the middle of the seats, if you let go then it all falls back to the rear of the car . Get the hood bars powder coated 1st . Also make sure you know the correct way to fit them in the sides put a paper sticker on each bar at each side .

The frame is kept up by the hood being fastened to the screen .
Woolies ( I&C Woolstenholmes Ltd) Whitley Way Northfields Industrial Estate MARKET DEEPING PETERBROUGH PE6 8AR 01778 341847
www.woolies-trim.co.uk
info@woolies-trim.co.uk

Now go and have a look at other mogs take your camera and a jotter , pencil and rubber and a tape measure .

I have just spent a good while watching a trimmer doing mine and he had other cars in two 1920s Alvis they come in with nothing and they build them from scratch frames hoods etc . I really can not help myself I have to have a look at everything I see people do .


Is it fastened to the body at the rear, if so how?
What is the distance between the hoops with the frame in the raised position?
What keeps the frame up when the hood is on?
Can you recommended a webbing supplier?

Photographs and/or drawings and measurements would be a great help

Many thanks

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