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#32155 17/07/09 09:29 PM
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The average age of our military men is 19 years. He is a short haired, tight-muscled kid who, under normal circumstances is considered by society as half man, half boy.
Not yet dry behind the ears, just old enough to buy a beer, but old enough to die for his country.

He never really cared much for work and he would rather wax his own car than wash his father's, but he has never collected unemployment either.

He probably went to Comprehensive School; he was probably an average student, pursued some form of sport activities, drives a ten year old jalopy, and has a steady girlfriend that either broke up with him when he left, or swears to be waiting when he returns from half a world away.

He is 10 or 15 pounds lighter now than when he was at home because he is working or fighting from before dawn to well after dusk. He has trouble spelling, thus letter writing is a pain for him, but he can field strip a rifle in 30 seconds and reassemble it in less time in the dark.
He can apply first aid like a professional.
He can march until he is told to stop, or stop until he is told to march.

He obeys orders instantly and without hesitation, but he is not without spirit or individual dignity.
He is self-sufficient. He has two sets of fatigues: he washes one and wears the other. He keeps his canteens full and his feet dry.

He sometimes forgets to brush his teeth, but never to clean his rifle. He can cook his own meals, mend his own clothes, and fix his own hurts.

If you're thirsty, he'll share his water with you; if you are hungry, his food. He'll even split his ammunition with you in the midst of battle when you run low.
He has learned to use his hands like weapons and weapons like they were his hands.
He can save your life - or take it, because that is his job.

He will often do twice the work of a civilian and draw half the pay, and still find ironic humour in it all.
He has seen more suffering and death than he should have in his short lifetime.

He has wept in public and in private, for friends who have fallen in combat and is unashamed..
He feels every note of the National Anthem vibrate through his body while at rigid attention, while tempering the burning desire to 'square-away' those around him who haven't bothered to stand, remove their hat, or even stop talking.
In an odd twist, day in and day out, far from home, he defends their right to be disrespectful.
Just as did his Father, Grandfather, and Great- grandfather, he is paying the price for our freedom. Beardless or not, he is not a boy. He is the BRITISH Fighting Man that has kept this country free for over 200 years.
He has asked nothing in return, except our friendship and understanding.
Remember him, always, for he has earned our respect

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Fantastic words!

I agree with every one of them and the sentiment between the lines. I was never in the armed services, other than as a 11yr old Naval Cadet, but I hope I have a feeling for the courage they all use every active minute of every day, all on our behalf. I just hope that I, myself, am worthy of the sacrifices they make for us all.

This is worthy of wider publication and of printing out to keep in our pockets for reading over again and again, lest we forget.

Thank you for sharing them with us Dmat. uk


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Heros one and all, lets hope this goverment see's sence soon and brings them all back home. They should be used to protect our own boarders not others.

But thats my own thoughts.


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Originally Posted By dmat
The average age of our military men is 19 years. He is a short haired, tight-muscled kid who, under normal circumstances is considered by society as half man, half boy.
Not yet dry behind the ears, just old enough to buy a beer, but old enough to die for his country.

He never really cared much for work and he would rather wax his own car than wash his father's, but he has never collected unemployment either.

He probably went to Comprehensive School; he was probably an average student, pursued some form of sport activities, drives a ten year old jalopy, and has a steady girlfriend that either broke up with him when he left, or swears to be waiting when he returns from half a world away.

He is 10 or 15 pounds lighter now than when he was at home because he is working or fighting from before dawn to well after dusk. He has trouble spelling, thus letter writing is a pain for him, but he can field strip a rifle in 30 seconds and reassemble it in less time in the dark.
He can apply first aid like a professional.
He can march until he is told to stop, or stop until he is told to march.

He obeys orders instantly and without hesitation, but he is not without spirit or individual dignity.
He is self-sufficient. He has two sets of fatigues: he washes one and wears the other. He keeps his canteens full and his feet dry.

He sometimes forgets to brush his teeth, but never to clean his rifle. He can cook his own meals, mend his own clothes, and fix his own hurts.

If you're thirsty, he'll share his water with you; if you are hungry, his food. He'll even split his ammunition with you in the midst of battle when you run low.
He has learned to use his hands like weapons and weapons like they were his hands.
He can save your life - or take it, because that is his job.

He will often do twice the work of a civilian and draw half the pay, and still find ironic humour in it all.
He has seen more suffering and death than he should have in his short lifetime.

He has wept in public and in private, for friends who have fallen in combat and is unashamed..
He feels every note of the National Anthem vibrate through his body while at rigid attention, while tempering the burning desire to 'square-away' those around him who haven't bothered to stand, remove their hat, or even stop talking.
In an odd twist, day in and day out, far from home, he defends their right to be disrespectful.
Just as did his Father, Grandfather, and Great- grandfather, he is paying the price for our freedom. Beardless or not, he is not a boy. He is the BRITISH Fighting Man that has kept this country free for over 200 years.
He has asked nothing in return, except our friendship and understanding.
Remember him, always, for he has earned our respect

dmat


Absolutely spot on!

Our Armed Forces are still - despite all the defence cuts - the finest and most professional in the world.

They are true heroes and doing a splendid job for us in absolutely horrid circumstances.

Lets hope the Government see sense and provide them with the equipment they need to fulfil their role safely.


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Originally Posted By Rbt Aero8
Lets hope the Government see sense and provide them with the equipment they need to fulfil their role safely.


Coming from a country where I had [the opportunity] to do National Service, I can tell you that the prospect of the general population having to serve in combat keeps the government wonderfully focused on the human cost of warfare...

Just to be clear - that is in no way intended to diminish the sense of bravery and sacrifice of those who voluntarily choose to serve.

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Nice words Dave and very apt indeed.

I have never been in the forces but have seen and felt more than most (but a hell of a lot less than some) the effects of war and warfare and it isn't very pleasant. I have the utmost respect for these "brave boys" and all who have exposed themselves to hardship and danger in protecting others and fightng for freedom and free thought.

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This is particularly poignant reminder to us all, on the day that Henry Allingham, one of the last survivors of the First World War, passed away.

We live the life we do in a free society because of both young and old heroes like him. Like many people, I feel extremely aggrieved that our Government has let the current crop of brave boys down, by failing to provide them with the necessary equipment to propagate their battle whilst minimising their own casualties.

The current unacceptable losses are I feel a national shame.



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Originally Posted By Aeroman
This is particularly poignant reminder to us all, on the day that Henry Allingham, one of the last survivors of the First World War, passed away.

We live the life we do in a free society because of both young and old heroes like him. Like many people, I feel extremely aggrieved that our Government has let the current crop of brave boys down, by failing to provide them with the necessary equipment to propagate their battle whilst minimising their own casualties.

The current unacceptable losses are I feel a national shame.



Couldn't agree more Brian.


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Originally Posted By Aeroman


The current unacceptable losses are I feel a national shame.



I agree and do wonder what would be happending now if Blair had sent over one of his kids or if Maggie had been in charge.

What does annoy me is that once the so called army leader retire they speak out, and yet prior to collecting pensions they seem happy to keep quiet on the matter.

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The current unacceptable losses are I feel a national shame.



I agree and do wonder what would be happending now if Blair had sent over one of his kids or if Maggie had been in charge.

What does annoy me is that once the so called army leader retire they speak out, and yet prior to collecting pensions they seem happy to keep quiet on the matter.

End of rant



Yes I think Maggie could show the current PM a thing or two.

That said the current CDS (Sir Jock Stirrup) is doing a good job of being quietly outspoken about need for more helicopters.

He's quite a chap being awarded a DFC for landing a Jaguar trainer from the back seat after a bird strike smashed the canopy and caused twin engine flame outs. Conventional wisdom would have suggested that he should have ejected but not knowing whether trainee pilot was in a state to do likewise (having lost comms) he calmly relit both engines and landed the aircraft.

Real Dan Dare stuff and exactly the sort of person we need in charge of the Armed Forces.

He gave a motivational talk at the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons in Glasgow recently and was equally impressive.


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