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I'm sure most of you will have seen this story

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/j...-at-uk-airports

Just goes to prove that tho' the UK has voted to leave the EU, HMG is perfectly capable of coming up with unnecessary, petty, nannyish new laws all by itself.



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Sorry but I disagree with you.
When you see stag and hen parties drinking from 4 pints jugs of ale before they board it is asking for trouble.
I have been on a Swiss air flight where it all kicked off .
By all means have a drink but as seen during the Euro us British go excessive and violent
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The "do not feed the drunk" rule has existed in the UK for years. Pubs operate it everywhere. I fly quite a bit and see the drunks often enough despite using Heathrow which is not really the main problem airport. When I have flown through Luton, East Midlands, Manchester and Glasgow I have seen it clearly. I don't want to be on a plane with these fools. Just wait for the day one of them yanks the emergency door for a dare.

The people involved here are not the government or the EU. I love to poke them so would ve happy to say if it was. It's the airline co-operative AOA saying we have to deal with this before it becomes dangerous.

When you travel back from SFO airport and buy duty free goods they are given to you as you board the aircraft. I would love to see this in UK airports but the manpower and additional cost eliminates in in general.

I would like strong introduction of the don't feed the drunk rule at airports or better still a breathalyser in the hands of the crew at the boarding gate and a policeman standing behind.

Air flight is generally safe but it is no fun being in a cabin when a drunken fool causes a fight and its up to the cabin crew and passengers to flatten then and tie them into the seat.


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I can see both sides of this. On the one hand, Giles is quite right, why shouldn't we be allowed to have a drink when we fly? The vast majority of travellers are perfectly capable of doing so responsibly.

On the other hand, a small number of idiots can make life awfully disruptive for the rest of us. I don't know what the answer is, maybe a maximum sale of 2 drinks per person?


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Im not keen on further screening, (unless it's for aircrew that is.) This would introduce a lot of problems which would include delays and cost for the vast majority of sensible passengers and in the present environment I'm not sure it would be workable?

However, although I can see the logic behind looser licensing laws at airports, there should be some rethink on this. It isn't that pleasant travelling amidst large groups of binge drinkers at any time and at 7am in the morning? The airports must surely take some of the blame, profit before all else?

This isn't a phenomenon I've particularly noticed any where other than flights to and from the uk.

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I'm not actually an airport drinker really; more of a cup of coffee man. I just think this is a massive over reaction. We have laws already in place to deal with this issue, and the numbers involved are not that great. Since 2014, there have been 442 passengers arrested in the UK for drunken behavior on aircraft, yet in 2014 alone 238 million passengers passed through UK airports.

All that is required is perhaps greater rigour by bar staff in airport bars, and at the boarding gates.

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Hmm all sorts of arguments can be had over flying.

Ban drunks Yeh!

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If you are a young family travelling on a plane you want to go from point A to B – you don’t want to be disrupted.


How about banning babies and little brats and parents who don't give a stuff?

Maybe the solution is that we all get wasted and sleep the flight off to a cacophony of snores wink

Anything like this is Please Some VS Annoy Others.


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Have you seen the price of drinking water once you get through security? Last week in Palma it was Euro 3.50 for a litre.....a lot of money is being made by someone somewhere.....almost cheaper to drink alcohol.....so a lot were! wine

To my mind, there is something not quite right about folk - even though they may be on holiday - pouring alcohol down their necks at breakfast time, or at any other time in the airport really. If they are suffering the effects of alcohol when they board I doubt very much if they would be in a position to comply with the safety procedures in the, as the staff say, unlikely event of an emergency. In other words they become a liability as well as a danger to staff and other passengers. And a right Pain in the Axxx if they are sitting next to or near you. swear

Personally, I would just stop serving alcohol once passengers are through security and leave it to security to do a rough assessment of your state as you are processed - and if in any doubt breathalyse anyone suspected of being over a set limit. If you are over the set limit then you don't fly, simples. cop

As draconian as it sounds the penalties for such offences need to be much stiffer, it won't deter all but I suspect it would deter a good many. Apart from a hefty fine or jail sentence, how about a 6 month ban from flying? We take drunk drivers off the road so why not those drunk on board an aircraft?

One thing is for sure, appealing to people's sense of responsibility won't work so action is required to address the problem. Perhaps the budget airlines could run 'Guaranteed No Alcohol or Drunks On Board' flights....for a small surcharge of course! quiet

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No doubt Tariq Mahmood Ahmad, Baron Ahmad of Wimbledon, and ex Vice-President of AMYA British Muslim youth organisation, does not enjoy a quite ale before taking a flight.


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