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 A 2M long bar with me having to bounce on the end of it, that means it was taking the thick end of 1200 Lbs/ft of torque to undo the wheel nuts. That's too damn tight.... (And yes I'm aware that in the picture hanging off it would tighten the wheel) Simon @ SiFab.co.uk
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So you will go down in the club as the bloke with the tightest nuts .
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That is serious torque - I have the Morgan lightweight alloys on my Plus 8 400ftlbs is about right I think which is a big bar at about 3' I think.
They are similar fixing to the Aero I believe.
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Wont that sort of force, set up the risk of stress fractures?
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That is serious torque - I have the Morgan lightweight alloys on my Plus 8 400ftlbs is about right I think which is a big bar at about 3' I think.
They are similar fixing to the Aero I believe. Aero wheels should be tightened to around 380 lbs/ft They don't come loose at that. Most of the issues are because people don't torque them up properly, and guess "a big bar at about 3ft....." I broke a 4 ft 1/2" drive breaker bar trying to loosen these off The wheel nut is the same as the "lightweight" alloys (a bit of a misnomer as they are actually heavier than the standard alloys). Although on the Aero the wheels are peg drive rather than spline drive as on the +8 Simon @ SiFab.co.uk
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Show me yours and I'll show you mine. "nut crackers", you can't live without them.  
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Makes me very happy that I have 5 normal wheel nuts tightened to 85 ft lbs on to 5 conventional studs on Tarka.
I'll bet I can undo all 5 more quickly than you can release your one!
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I would like to meet the chap who tightened those nuts so that I could avoid him in a pub fight !! 
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That is serious torque - I have the Morgan lightweight alloys on my Plus 8 400ftlbs is about right I think which is a big bar at about 3' I think.
They are similar fixing to the Aero I believe. Aero wheels should be tightened to around 380 lbs/ft They don't come loose at that. Most of the issues are because people don't torque them up properly, and guess "a big bar at about 3ft....." I broke a 4 ft 1/2" drive breaker bar trying to loosen these off The wheel nut is the same as the "lightweight" alloys (a bit of a misnomer as they are actually heavier than the standard alloys). Although on the Aero the wheels are peg drive rather than spline drive as on the +8 Simon @ SiFab.co.uk 380 lbs/ft = 515 Nm. Torque = Force x Distance, & Force = Mass x Acceleration (using gravity at 9.81 m/s2) Therefore Torque = M (kg) x A (m/s2) x D (m). Assuming you weigh say 85 Kg, & have a 0.6 m long bar (2 ft), when you stand on it will give a Torque of 85 x 9.81 x 0.6 = 500 Nm. Therefore you need a bar just over 2ft, not a 3 ft bar. I have a 3/4" drive Draper extending offset wrench, which has 3 length settings, 0.3m, 0.6m & 0.9m. Seems just the job to me but not yet used it in anger
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