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Something is finally being done to rid the roads of high polluting diesel engined vehicles.
Paris, Mexico City, Athens and Madrid are to ban all diesel engined vehicles within 10 years. Surely other major cities must follow the lead.
The lies told to governments by manufacturers, and perhaps their keenness to find a magic fuel, led to the roads being clogged with filthy high polluting vehicles.
The ticking time bomb, that will in time lead to many of us being diagnosed with lung problems, is the big worry now.
The soot particulates penetrating our lungs and the nitrogen oxide creating low level ozone will lead to huge numbers of people with respiratory illness.
I'm not saying petrol is pure and perfect but it's safer than diesel.
I test drove a Tesla the other week. I went expecting to be disappointed, but came away very impressed. Great, if you don't need to travel more than 250 miles, which is most people and most journeys.
I'm not sure electric cars are the future, but internal combustion certainly is the past.
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I'm not sure electric cars are the future, but internal combustion certainly is the past.
Saddly……...
I would certainly say that electric cars are the future, I think there's a debate as to how the energy will be stored (Hydrogen / Polymer Batteries etc) to power them. I don't think it'll be long before ICE engines are confined to the same sorts of groups and preservation societies as steam engines are today.
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Something is finally being done to rid the roads of high polluting diesel engined vehicles.
Paris, Mexico City, Athens and Madrid are to ban all diesel engined vehicles within 10 years. Surely other major cities must follow the lead.
The lies told to governments by manufacturers, and perhaps their keenness to find a magic fuel, led to the roads being clogged with filthy high polluting vehicles.
The ticking time bomb, that will in time lead to many of us being diagnosed with lung problems, is the big worry now.
The soot particulates penetrating our lungs and the nitrogen oxide creating low level ozone will lead to huge numbers of people with respiratory illness.
I'm not saying petrol is pure and perfect but it's safer than diesel.
I test drove a Tesla the other week. I went expecting to be disappointed, but came away very impressed. Great, if you don't need to travel more than 250 miles, which is most people and most journeys.
I'm not sure electric cars are the future, but internal combustion certainly is the past.
Saddly……...
Oh, here we go again.. Look at Euro VI regs. Pollution in cities is down to congestion and old technology engines. It's always easier to drive personal agendas by bans, rather than reality. If you're that worried, maybe you should sell your car & stop adding to it all?
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Something is finally being done to rid the roads of high polluting diesel engined vehicles
The lies told to governments by manufacturers...led to the roads being clogged with filthy high polluting vehicles.
The ticking time bomb...of us being diagnosed with lung problems.
The soot particulates penetrating our lungs...
I test drove a Tesla the other week...came away very impressed. Do I detect the zealotry of a convert whose next step is to convert others...?
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The particulate offenders are buses, trucks, old style taxi cabs, and transit type vans etc...
The latest diesel cars are not the offenders.
You can get rid of all the diesel cars on the road and replace them with shiny new Teslas and you won't have even begun to tackle the problem of air pollution.
What I would like to know more about is what is going to happen about the countries energy infrastructure and resultant environmental problems etc.. when all these millions of cars suddenly get plugged into the grid. Also, how the country is going to safely process all the millions of dead batteries from these millions of cars in our future electric car utopia.
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Well said saved me doing it. I do get p off by people trying to put me into there sheep fold. Oh, here we go again.. Look at Euro VI regs. Pollution in cities is down to congestion and old technology engines. It's always easier to drive personal agendas by bans, rather than reality. If you're that worried, maybe you should sell your car & stop adding to it all? [/quote] 
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I always wanted an electric car driven by an on board rotary/gas turbine in the manner of the i3 where it uses the engine optimised to charge the batteries as a range extender. This puts it in its optimal efficiency but lets you reduce the battery weight. Etc etc.
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This is the national grid status page. At lunchtime today Friday 2nd December we are in the amber region of electricity demand that starts at 45 Giga Watt Hours. We are at 45.86 Giga Watt Hours. http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/The danger area starts at 55 Giga Watt Hours and today is not that cold and therefore as the temperature reduces the demand goes up. We are probably needing another 3 or 4 large powerstations to get to a more balanced output/demand ratio. That appear not to being built at the moment. The distribution network overhaul needed to provide the power to the large 3 phase charging banks need to fast charge a large number of cars will also not be able to keep up with the demand of new electric cars. There will e a crunch period of a good number of years while generaying capacity and distribution capacity catches up.
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Oh, here we go again..
Look at Euro VI regs.
Pollution in cities is down to congestion and old technology engines. It's always easier to drive personal agendas by bans, rather than reality.
If you're that worried, maybe you should sell your car & stop adding to it all? [/quote]
Do you work for a diesel engine manufacturer?
I agree that congestion has lot to do with it, but if that congestion is made up of vehicles with poorly tuned diesel engines it has to be a contributory factor.
I don't have a diesel engined car, I won't be giving up my car just yet, as I don't think the alternative is certain yet.
Perhaps the newest cars on the road do comply with what ever regulations the motor industry has set for it's self, that are only reproducible in a laboratory, and have no relevance in real world driving.
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