9 members (Mike D, Chris99, Vansrv6, Camelot, Image, James B W, Dada, MATTMOG, Pyewacket),
312
guests, and
44
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums34
Topics48,346
Posts813,048
Members9,208
|
Most Online1,046 Aug 24th, 2023
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 28,416 Likes: 178
Salty Sea Dog Member of the Inner Circle
|
Salty Sea Dog Member of the Inner Circle
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 28,416 Likes: 178 |
I still have to remind  to switch off items not in use - like lights as she leaves a room... "But you paid for those solar panels to provide electricity" "Yes dear, but there is a clue in the name 'solar'"... 
Graham (G4FUJ)
Sold L44FOR 4/4 Giallo Fly '09 Gen2 MINI Cooper ragtop '90 LR 90 SW
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 8,014
Posting Desperado Talk Morgan Guru
|
Posting Desperado Talk Morgan Guru
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 8,014 |
Graham its a woman thing , I remember dad shouting at mam ' switch the bloody lights off woman ' she always had an excuse. I now find  Jnr is just the same . She would rather open the door than turn the fire down . Dont tell me what to do its like talking to the wall. I still have to remind  to switch off items not in use - like lights as she leaves a room... "But you paid for those solar panels to provide electricity" "Yes dear, but there is a clue in the name 'solar'"...
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 8,646
Needs to Get Out More!
|
Needs to Get Out More!
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 8,646 |
I can't get past the fact that some one has to live next to the power stations which will have to produce all this "clean" power and we are already very exposed if we have a bad winter. Can the grid provide enough electric power for us just to live? Indeed. In France only about 18% of electricity is produced by burning hydrocarbons, so the environmental argument for plug-in electric cars holds far more water than it would in the UK, where an electric car is mainly just moving the pollution somewhere else. One also has to consider if the infrastructure of the national grid is adequate to provide all the charging required for our cars if we all rush out and buy electric ones, as it seems there may be shortfalls in generating capacity on the horizon even without this extra demand. My dear old dad (who served on diesel electric submarines) likes to point out that there's nowt new about hybrids. I suspect ultimately hybrids with fuel cells to top up the batteries may be the way forward.
Giles. Mogless in Paris.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 8,646
Needs to Get Out More!
|
Needs to Get Out More!
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 8,646 |
Graham its a woman thing , I remember dad shouting at mam ' switch the bloody lights off woman ' she always had an excuse. I now find  Jnr is just the same . She would rather open the door than turn the fire down . Dont tell me what to do its like talking to the wall. I still have to remind  to switch off items not in use - like lights as she leaves a room... "But you paid for those solar panels to provide electricity" "Yes dear, but there is a clue in the name 'solar'"... One of my Grandfather's friends went home to Scotland on leave from the trenches in WWI, arriving home in the middle of the night. The very first thing his father (who he had not seen for 2 years) said to him the following morning when he came down to breakfast was "Aye, I thought ye were back. Ye left light on on the landing last night"
Giles. Mogless in Paris.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 21,868 Likes: 167
Roadster Guru Member of the Inner Circle
|
Roadster Guru Member of the Inner Circle
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 21,868 Likes: 167 |
The elephant in the room is the railways. Many old dirty high consumption diesels running almost constantly, even when standing for twenty minutes. Electrics need high level supply and where does that come from?
DaveW '05 Red Roadster S1 '16 Yellow (Not the only) Narrow AR GDI Plus 4
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 9,285 Likes: 69
Needs to Get Out More!
|
Needs to Get Out More!
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 9,285 Likes: 69 |
Governments have known about the problems with diesel emissions for years. As usual the expediency of letting diesels carry on was chosen. Extra mpg, revenue, Especially for commercial vehicles was the choice. Cities have the problem of emissions due to congestion. Huge volumes of traffic in restricted area. There are significant problems to overcome in the interim before bans are in place. What will replace diesels in cities? How will people, goods actually get transported in? Electric trams? No...the rails and power gantries will cause issues. Generation, cyclists stuck in rails. Trolleybuses may be better...no rails. Park and ride? I assume the politicians have the answers ready? With the plans proposed by major car companies to expand charging points nationwide I will be looking more clisely at electric/hybrid for our next tintop workhorse. Cost of buying as a private owner not company car is an obstacle but possibly ok. I like the Tesla package for home battery too. A sensible route. I am a bit annoyed at the long term strategic failure of successive governments re generating capacity. It appears that emissions for generating have taken a very high lead causing debates and procrastination, all whilst closing existing generators. Powercuts are deemed to be acceptable? I await the excuses from politicians and blame shifting.
Plus Four MY23 Furka Rouge
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 4,328
Gone to Porsche Part of the Furniture
|
Gone to Porsche Part of the Furniture
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 4,328 |
J.T.L our next venture will be to reopen all the Pits (coal mines) in the North East.
To many to list
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 28,416 Likes: 178
Salty Sea Dog Member of the Inner Circle
|
Salty Sea Dog Member of the Inner Circle
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 28,416 Likes: 178 |
Many old dirty high consumption diesels running almost constantly, even when standing for twenty minutes. Where's Jeremy? I expect he will have a perfectly valid reason for this... Extra mpg, revenue, Especially for commercial vehicles was the choice. They'd get a lot more revenue if the truck was petrol driven. Fully laden, the consumption would be somewhere around 4 times that of diesel... Just think of the emissions level then... The potential pollution problem from all these batteries is also worrying... I like Tim's idea for getting a better return on my solar PV installation though 
Graham (G4FUJ)
Sold L44FOR 4/4 Giallo Fly '09 Gen2 MINI Cooper ragtop '90 LR 90 SW
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 21,868 Likes: 167
Roadster Guru Member of the Inner Circle
|
Roadster Guru Member of the Inner Circle
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 21,868 Likes: 167 |
Somewhere in Europe is a tram system which gets power from a supply in the road which is only live under the tram. Somebody told me about this, this week.
DaveW '05 Red Roadster S1 '16 Yellow (Not the only) Narrow AR GDI Plus 4
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 5,587
Charter Member
|
Charter Member
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 5,587 |
How many people will get run over by electric cars soon !
Geneva 2016 plus 8' The Green Godess' 4 side exits .
|
|
|
|
|