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Î bégin to install an S&S super G Carburetor with a filter king And A Facet flo pump

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Interesting! What is the reason for going to a carb setup?


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Î changed Two fuel pump And Î believe than the ecu box is out of order .
With Carburetor Î put lo présure fuel pump with A regulator
No more problem And Î expect to be on th road soon.
Î bought an S&S super G Carburetor which was on my friend Mtw .
He changed it for A Mikuni but thS&Swas correct for use.
Photos comes from my friend Mtw

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I spoke with an italian S&S specialist about it last year. He told me my 3W could be faster with a carburetor kit installed. My only concerne was about mot and engine light on dashboard. I'm very interested about this modification. Thank you for sharing


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Quite interesting. Which Mikuni is that?

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Originally Posted By drk
I spoke with an italian S&S specialist about it last year. He told me my 3W could be faster with a carburetor kit installed.


It would be unusual for this to be the case, but who knows!!


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The Mikuni is a good carbs, but many Harley owner with S&S engine also use SU and seem's that work well after a fine tune the looking is better and the SU is more english smile




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Advantage of Mikuni over an SU is availability and range of parts for tuning. The one I had on my Velo had so many jet and slide options it was bewildering!

But I don't think you can beat an SU for simplicity and reliability, not that many moving parts.


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Are the M3Ws not subject to emissions control restrictions? Can a carb run cleanly enough to pass the tests?


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Originally Posted By SteveT
Advantage of Mikuni over an SU is availability and range of parts for tuning. The one I had on my Velo had so many jet and slide options it was bewildering!

But I don't think you can beat an SU for simplicity and reliability, not that many moving parts.


you got the dark point, it's why i haven't get one in my 1340 Softail with my Knucklehead S&S replica , but according to friend witch have made the move it's easy to find all part you need.

in term of look they are also unbeatable (in my eyes)




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Here motorcycles are not subjected to emission tests at our equivalent of the MOT.

Bikes have to be Euro-4 compliant emissionswise OR have been registered for street use before Jan 1st 2017, however.

How much of the British legislation will be redone at Brexit?

Mine has been registered since 2013, so no worries. Don't think I will remove the cats anyhow.


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I'm not sure BREXIT will change too much legislation for the forseeable. Otherwise UK standards will become another set for imports to adhere to, and another set for those who export to adhere to (UK sales and European exports).

In fact, the cynic may even suggest that going forward we will have the freedom to chose exactly what we want, but in practice have absolutely no say in shaping what we actually [voluntarily] choose to inherit from the EU.

(This isn't a political statement, merely a pragmatic business statement)


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Originally Posted By Hamwich
Are the M3Ws not subject to emissions control restrictions? Can a carb run cleanly enough to pass the tests?


M3W in the UK are not subject to emission testing at the MOT. As I found out last year when the tester tried to get my car to pass the emissions test and eventually gave up, post test I found out that it was not required.


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Originally Posted By Rog G
M3W in the UK are not subject to emission testing at the MOT.


Well stap me vitals, I'm amazed.


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If the ECU goes south, this mod definitely looks like the way to go. What throat size is recommended for the carburetor option? I have boxes full of 1-1/2" SU's , would probably need to fabricate manifolds, one for each cylinder, in which case, 1-1/4" might be better. Perhaps a Weber would do better.

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Originally Posted By Inge
If the ECU goes south, this mod definitely looks like the way to go. What throat size is recommended for the carburetor option? I have boxes full of 1-1/2" SU's , would probably need to fabricate manifolds, one for each cylinder, in which case, 1-1/4" might be better. Perhaps a Weber would do better.


Remember, you still have the ignition to worry about. I know that there's a company called Thunderheart that sells standalone ignition systems for late model ECM controlled Harleys for use in like a custom bike. A Thunderheart ignition and a carb is all you'll need at that point.


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Originally Posted By atalante83
Î changed Two fuel pump And Î believe than the ecu box is out of order .
With Carburetor Î put lo présure fuel pump with A regulator
No more problem And Î expect to be on th road soon.
Î bought an S&S super G Carburetor which was on my friend Mtw .
He changed it for A Mikuni but thS&Swas correct for use.
Photos comes from my friend Mtw


What are you running for the regulated fuel pressure, 2, 3, or 4 psi? What is the recommended on a S&S? Probably 99% or greater S&S carbs are used in a gravity flow setup, not a fuel pump setup.


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Yeah Mikunis run pretty low, at least in my experience. Both cars and scooters. I'm running that same Malpassi filter on the MG, though it didn't get the pressure down low enough for the Mikuni on its own with the pump that it had.

I'd definitely be interested to know what this setup ends up running as well, especially to see what it does on a dyno. There is something to be said for the simplicity of a carb, and mikunis are a breeze to work on.

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Î understand why the S&S super G was replaced by a mikuni
The super G is 48 mm diameter inside And the mikuni is 53 mm as the admission collector. Î must adapt it.

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Which mikuni is running 53mm? My go to is the HSR but I they top out at 48mm as well.

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Sorry the mikuni pipe in caoutchouc used is 53 mm as the admission collector fixed with origînal screws And it is fixed on the Carburetor by a serflex like motorcycles .

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Ah I get you. Cool cool. So is that a 48mm HSR then? If so I'm definitely curious as to how it performs.

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On the way..
Inserts for injection holes

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What's the shot of the throttle body for?

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For seing new holes of 5 mm

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Ah I got you. Cool. Any hangups on the process so far or is it going pretty smooth?

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Body fuel pump

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Fuel pump And fuel filter for injection


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Fuel pump body without fuel pump modified for connecting filter on the bottom of the body

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Missing fuel Line And it should be good

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On the road again


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It was the ecu out of service
No problem now with carbu

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All that and just some shots of it in place. Come on, how does it perform? What tuning to be done to the carb or were the jets you popped in just right?

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Any engine light on ?


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Atalante83, what psi do you have your regulator set at? Does it idle without any bleed from pressure issues?

And then like others have asked, how's it perform?

Good job with the conversion.


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0,2 psi i think
It is better for starting
Performance seems to be the same but with exhausts upgraded it should be more efficient.

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Thanks and keep us all informed.


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100km with the new installation
It seems to be good

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Good thing
Starting is easier
Always on the road

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I'm glad to know your 3W is on the road.
Any engine light on ?
I guess I will follow your carburetor swap on mine 3W soon


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Its been a year now since you converted your car to carb.
Long term, how is it?

Do you have a list of parts used?

John.

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The starting is better
I.m waiting for A new exhaust
If it is not at my taste
I install stage 2 G 56

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