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Been informed by someone who has just placed an order for a new M3W, that Morgan have stopped doing the Stage 1 upgrade (that he ordered) due to "reliability Issues"
Also, if you get the Stage 1 kit fitted elsewhere (presumably by a dealer) it invalidates the warranty!!

Does anyone know what's going on?

Should us folk who are running the Morgan Stage 1 kit be worried?

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That sounds about right for Morgan.


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Originally Posted By WarBird
Been informed by someone who has just placed an order for a new M3W, that Morgan have stopped doing the Stage 1 upgrade (that he ordered) due to "reliability Issues"
Also, if you get the Stage 1 kit fitted elsewhere (presumably by a dealer) it invalidates the warranty!!

Does anyone know what's going on?

Should us folk who are running the Morgan Stage 1 kit be worried?


Just a guess: water getting into the engine intake thru the stage 1 filter?

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It's reliability of supply. They have not been able to meet the increasing demand for some time.


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Reliability of supply doesn't explain why the warranty would be invalidated.....

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Reliability of supply doesn't explain why the warranty would be invalidated.....

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Originally Posted By WarBird
Been informed by someone who has just placed an order for a new M3W, that Morgan have stopped doing the Stage 1 upgrade (that he ordered) due to "reliability Issues"
Also, if you get the Stage 1 kit fitted elsewhere (presumably by a dealer) it invalidates the warranty!!

Does anyone know what's going on?

Should us folk who are running the Morgan Stage 1 kit be worried?


I was told by my dealer that it was due to "supply issues".
Good point about whether installing an alternative Stage 1 kit will invalidate the factory warranty. I am going to email my dealer now to get them to confirm what the position is on that.

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Across the pond here in the US of A, we have the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act.

Simply put:

Summary

When accessorizing your vehicle with aftermarket parts, your warranty claim cannot be automatically denied, nor can your warranty be voided, if you install non-OEM parts in your vehicle. The burden is on the dealer to prove the aftermarket parts caused the failure. For example, if your windshield wiper motors fail, your vehicle’s warranty claim can’t be denied because you installed aftermarket windshield wipers that are different from OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer) parts. Similarly, if a wheel bearing fails or a fan belt snaps and you have an aftermarket exhaust installed, the dealership would have to prove the exhaust system caused the bearing failure or the belt to snap in order to deny a warranty claim. In these types of scenarios, the dealership should have no reason to deny your claims.


This also came about by dealers way back when stating that if you did not have them service your vehicle, they would void your warranty.

If you did an aftermarket exhaust and burnt out an exhaust valve, they would have good reason to deny your claim, but if your timing belt broke after installing the aftermarket exhaust, it could not be considered that the exhaust had any part in the failure of the belt.

With Harleys, it's a big thing here that if you install a trailer hitch on your bike that it voids your warranty. Again if the clutch or trans went south while pulling a trailer, they would have merit to void the repair because of the hitch and pulling a trailer. But they could not void a warranty claim against a bad fuel injector nozzle.

So guys, don't be pushed around. I'm sure that the UK or EU has a similar law covering the same type of warranty voiding policies.


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We have the EU block exemption that says something to the effect that "you can use a non-franchise garage to service your car but they must use parts that are a similar standard and quality to what the vehicle manufacturer uses".

Now if you use an upgraded part from another manufacturer that is not similar to let's say the standard exhaust therefore you would not be within the block exemption to use such a past.

Also in the US if you go to a tuning shop and buy the tuning shop's non manufacturer approved stage 1 kit that is not what was on the car originally, the US manufacturer can void your warranty.

On the other hand if you have a Ford and get a similar Fram Oil Filter from your local garage to what Ford sell then they cannot void your warranty either in the UK or US.

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