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Yes, even through winter.
Probably don't even wear a vest.
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To be serious, I like the idea how the boys react and defend in wearing skirts. To me it has a deeper symbolic message. At least in Germany not only few boys cannot behave as they should and did in past decades. A lot lot them have to be "gender correct" they may not be loud or active. In the worst cases they get ritalin. Imagine Mozart today, he would be treated with ritalin and we had no Requiem and no Magic Flute because he would have been calmed down. You have to let the free thinkers have some space otherwise all is lost. Our son went to a Grammar School and the dress code was smart and hair the same. He decided to go to the barbers one lunchtime and presented himself in class with a Mohican. He was instructed to change this style for something a little less startling so he got a Grade 2 allover and dyed it bright blue. There was nothing the school could do as the girls had dyed hair as well, so he changed colours weekly just to -iss them off. He kept it up for three years until he got bored with it. He had a scooter which he worked and paid for in the school holidays and he would just vanish off the face of the planet for anything up to 3 days exploring the area with school friends. As you might imagine it caused us parents a lot of concern but we are both very positive people with a strong faith and hoped all would be well. This was time and space that he needed to develop in and we realised that at the time but it took a bit of living with. He went on and got his 4 A levels at A and B grades without one nights homework, some people are wired differently. His two sisters worked incredibly hard for their 4 A levels and hated him at the time. He has turned into a lovely caring human being that I am proud to call my friend and son.
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It's possibly the best lesson they will learn all year. How to challenge authority when it is wrong - by which I mean inflexible, unfair and disproportionate. If everyone took this view, we may get a better society.
As an aside, my 18 YO schooleaver son went to work for the first time today, on a building site. I hope it lives up to his expectations and I did warn him. "Dad, it can't be any worse than school" was his response. I hope Mum will have the Radox ready for him  . Didn't need the Radox, he managed to leave all of the filth over the inside of my car  He did have the time of his life and said the 9 hours flew by. Currently fashioning a car seat cover out of bin liners. Talking of which - and also more on topic - I once wore a bin liner to a school art exhibition for a bet.
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It's possibly the best lesson they will learn all year. How to challenge authority when it is wrong - by which I mean inflexible, unfair and disproportionate. If everyone took this view, we may get a better society.
As an aside, my 18 YO schooleaver son went to work for the first time today, on a building site. I hope it lives up to his expectations and I did warn him. "Dad, it can't be any worse than school" was his response. I hope Mum will have the Radox ready for him . Didn't need the Radox, he managed to leave all of the filth over the inside of my car He did have the time of his life and said the 9 hours flew by. Currently fashioning a car seat cover out of bin liners. Talking of which - and also more on topic - I once wore a bin liner to a school art exhibition for a bet. Shame about the seats. Still the liners will fix it. I was thinking of the soak in the bath to soothe the aching newly discovered muscle groups  . How did it go down at the exhibition ? I'm glad he enjoyed the day this kind of work is a good experience and certainly a good motivater to try hard .
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Yes, even through winter.
Probably don't even wear a vest. There you go using those four letter words again Dave..
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It's possibly the best lesson they will learn all year. How to challenge authority when it is wrong - by which I mean inflexible, unfair and disproportionate. If everyone took this view, we may get a better society.
As an aside, my 18 YO schooleaver son went to work for the first time today, on a building site. I hope it lives up to his expectations and I did warn him. "Dad, it can't be any worse than school" was his response. I hope Mum will have the Radox ready for him . Didn't need the Radox, he managed to leave all of the filth over the inside of my car He did have the time of his life and said the 9 hours flew by. Currently fashioning a car seat cover out of bin liners. Talking of which - and also more on topic - I once wore a bin liner to a school art exhibition for a bet. Shame about the seats. Still the liners will fix it. I was thinking of the soak in the bath to soothe the aching newly discovered muscle groups . How did it go down at the exhibition ? I'm glad he enjoyed the day this kind of work is a good experience and certainly a good motivater to try hard . He came to the gym with me after I picked him up, so muscles not too tired. In fact, he outlifted me on our final shoulder press set which was a first for him and prompted a bit of banter over whether I was wearing girls' knickers. I can't remember much about the art exhibition except that the teachers didn't throw me out (which was what I wanted) so I had to attend the whole thing and got a bright pink heat rash over my torso. Also met a girl (it was a joint show with the local girls' Grammar School) who invited me back to her huge house with a pool. She and her family became and remained close friends - but my wife put her foot down at an 'ex' coming to our wedding. Still makes me annoyed that I had to lose a friend to gain a wife.
Stuart
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To be serious, I like the idea how the boys react and defend in wearing skirts. To me it has a deeper symbolic message. At least in Germany not only few boys cannot behave as they should and did in past decades. A lot lot them have to be "gender correct" they may not be loud or active. In the worst cases they get ritalin. Imagine Mozart today, he would be treated with ritalin and we had no Requiem and no Magic Flute because he would have been calmed down. You have to let the free thinkers have some space otherwise all is lost. Our son went to a Grammar School and the dress code was smart and hair the same. He decided to go to the barbers one lunchtime and presented himself in class with a Mohican. He was instructed to change this style for something a little less startling so he got a Grade 2 allover and dyed it bright blue. There was nothing the school could do as the girls had dyed hair as well, so he changed colours weekly just to -iss them off. He kept it up for three years until he got bored with it. He had a scooter which he worked and paid for in the school holidays and he would just vanish off the face of the planet for anything up to 3 days exploring the area with school friends. As you might imagine it caused us parents a lot of concern but we are both very positive people with a strong faith and hoped all would be well. This was time and space that he needed to develop in and we realised that at the time but it took a bit of living with. He went on and got his 4 A levels at A and B grades without one nights homework, some people are wired differently. His two sisters worked incredibly hard for their 4 A levels and hated him at the time. He has turned into a lovely caring human being that I am proud to call my friend and son. That is a very impressive story, Richard, and I'm glad your son has parents who have so much understanding regarding the detours a son might need. We have a 16 girl, a 25 girl and a 22 years old son. I love them all so much and all are really different. The girls have no issues to manage school, university etc. I'm happy even if I sometimes think the girls don't have this abilities got from me. Our son is like me a bit, needing detours and after some "exiting" time he now is on a very positive path. And you, Richard, could not describe it in a better way, nothing is nicer than having a son who is friend and son at the same time.
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To be serious, I like the idea how the boys react and defend in wearing skirts. To me it has a deeper symbolic message. At least in Germany not only few boys cannot behave as they should and did in past decades. A lot lot them have to be "gender correct" they may not be loud or active. In the worst cases they get ritalin. Imagine Mozart today, he would be treated with ritalin and we had no Requiem and no Magic Flute because he would have been calmed down. You have to let the free thinkers have some space otherwise all is lost. Our son went to a Grammar School and the dress code was smart and hair the same. He decided to go to the barbers one lunchtime and presented himself in class with a Mohican. He was instructed to change this style for something a little less startling so he got a Grade 2 allover and dyed it bright blue. There was nothing the school could do as the girls had dyed hair as well, so he changed colours weekly just to -iss them off. He kept it up for three years until he got bored with it. He had a scooter which he worked and paid for in the school holidays and he would just vanish off the face of the planet for anything up to 3 days exploring the area with school friends. As you might imagine it caused us parents a lot of concern but we are both very positive people with a strong faith and hoped all would be well. This was time and space that he needed to develop in and we realised that at the time but it took a bit of living with. He went on and got his 4 A levels at A and B grades without one nights homework, some people are wired differently. His two sisters worked incredibly hard for their 4 A levels and hated him at the time. He has turned into a lovely caring human being that I am proud to call my friend and son. That is a very impressive story, Richard, and I'm glad your son has parents who have so much understanding regarding the detours a son might need. We have a 16 girl, a 25 girl and a 22 years old son. I love them all so much and all are really different. The girls have no issues to manage school, university etc. I'm happy even if I sometimes think the girls don't have this abilities got from me. Our son is like me a bit, needing detours and after some "exiting" time he now is on a very positive path. And you, Richard, could not describe it in a better way, nothing is nicer than having a son who is friend and son at the same time. Thank you Heinz, like you I feel they have got their brains from their Mother but the constant need for adventure and excitement can be lain at my door quite happily. The girls are 39 and 36 and Joe is 33 and as you say you love them all dearly and it's fantastic when they develop into your friends as well as yours surely are/will. I do envy you the age difference - I just loved the night out in the Students Union Bar and then onto a Club when I used to go and pick them up at the end of term, happy days and thoroughly enjoyed at the time. One of the best parental realisation moments for me was when I twigged that they were beginning to teach me things, and continue to do so, they have to be very sharp just to survive these days. They make my childhood look amazingly straightforward and care free.
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He came to the gym with me after I picked him up, so muscles not too tired. In fact, he outlifted me on our final shoulder press set which was a first for him and prompted a bit of banter over whether I was wearing girls' knickers.
I can't remember much about the art exhibition except that the teachers didn't throw me out (which was what I wanted) so I had to attend the whole thing and got a bright pink heat rash over my torso. Also met a girl (it was a joint show with the local girls' Grammar School) who invited me back to her huge house with a pool. She and her family became and remained close friends - but my wife put her foot down at an 'ex' coming to our wedding. Still makes me annoyed that I had to lose a friend to gain a wife. [/quote]
I'm glad your son is more than holding his own by the sound of it - I wish him well with his results.
What a lovely story about the art exhibition, it's funny with girls isn't it I still don't begin to understand them. Had it have been an old male friend of hers I wouldn't mind betting you would have let him come to the wedding.
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........ They make my childhood look amazingly straightforward and care free. Likewise.. Growing up in the 1960s I did what I wanted, went where I wanted. Rode my Lambretta up to the top of Leigh Hill and no one seemed to care. Try that today? Boys Grammar School..yes, a dress code but essentially white shirt, tie, grey trousers and black blazer with a school badge on the pocket. We had free choice of sock colour, but wearing 2 differently coloured socks was taboo! Then fluorescent socks arrived. Much angst, until they were banned unless in your house colour!! We grew up wearing uniforms, school, scouts, ATC. Then university, where there was, in effect, an informal dress code......jeans and scruffy T shirt. To work, 1975 suite, tie, Samsonite briefcase.... The hot summer of 1976 I was a sales rep in London, visiting the University and Hospital Laboratories for BDH Chemicals. We were told by the sales manager that it was OK to wear a short sleeved shirt under our jacket, but with customers we had to keep a jacket and tie on!! Oh well...
Peter,
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