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Originally Posted By lowebird
I have just read it and it sounds like Charles is back, am I correct in reading this? If so, so much the better however a profit of £700,000.00 on a turnover of £ 30 million, now I'm no business man but that doesn't seem great.
Even their aspirations to go for £35 million on turnover with a profit of £1.3million isn't terrific.
As for the electric cars, best I don't say anything about that !!


Agree v low% return. But need to see the full accounts really P&L and Balance sheet to work out why/what is being "charged" - management fees?? As I guess the real bottom line is higher than 2.5% which is not brilliant. But a Profit - which is just great!


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https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/docum...ro1YovYG3ywU%3D

Is this the set of accounts they're on about? I lose track with the different companies.


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A firm like Morgan would be very canny in tucking away gross profits into r&d, property purchases, investments, machinery purchases, stock holding, tax losses and so on . Net profit tells no story at all, its just what they pay tax on.


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Originally Posted By Stuart Green
A firm like Morgan would be very canny in tucking away gross profits into r&d, property purchases, investments, machinery purchases, stock holding, tax losses and so on . Net profit tells no story at all, its just what they pay tax on.


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Originally Posted By Stuart Green
A firm like Morgan would be very canny in tucking away gross profits into r&d, property purchases, investments, machinery purchases, stock holding, tax losses and so on . Net profit tells no story at all, its just what they pay tax on.


I didn't realise that point, i.e. that they only pay tax on the declared profit, in which case if all the other facts are germane, they are quite clever.


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A firm like Morgan would be very canny in tucking away gross profits into r&d, property purchases, investments, machinery purchases, stock holding, tax losses and so on . Net profit tells no story at all, its just what they pay tax on.


I didn't realise that point, i.e. that they only pay tax on the declared profit, in which case if all the other facts are germane, they are quite clever.


Standard accounting practice in any well run business


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Originally Posted By milligoon
Is that profit after buying back the site?


I've always been led to believe that buying property must be done from nett profit, not tax allowable....can that be right?
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It's not my specialist area but there are certain capital allowances which can be offset against corporation tax.

The land and buildings will appear in the balance sheet as an asset, and any loan or charge against this will be a liability. But don't assume the Motor Co will hold the asset. It could be an associated company or even a family company or trust arrangement.


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