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Just Getting Started
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I am in the process of replacing my dash rocker switches on my Morgan 4 1980 to Lucas toggle switches. I have started with the headlamp side lamp switch and although I connected the wires as they were, when I check with the multitester it is giving me continuity on the three functions even when off. After spending a lot of time trying to work out the problem I tested the system with the old switch and the same thing happened. Just a short note that I have a connection from the red green wire to the front fog lamp switch. It looks as though when I put the wires on the switch the circuit does not cut. I am not very technical on electricity but I tried to wire everything as before.
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If you are measuring a cross a coil/filament you will get low resistance.
Try measuring with the lamps/bulbs out, then measure between switch/lamp/ground terminal/positive terminal of battery.
Making sure battery is disconnected while doing all this.
It may make a little more sense to you.
Mark - No Longer driving Archie the Old English Sheep Mog........... 2010 Roadster 3.0 V6 (S3)
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I wonder if the fog light switch feeds a relay (as my '76 did its drive lamps). In which case the relay coil will appear low resistance.
Graham (G4FUJ)
Sold L44FOR 4/4 Giallo Fly '11 MINI Countryman Cooper D All4 '90 LR 90 SW
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I will try and do more checks as I go along. As regards relays I do not think my model did have any relays. Whilst thanking you for the replies I will keep this forum posted on developments
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Although your model may not have originally come fitted with relays a lot have been modified by those having a little electrical know how to ensure the switches are switching only the relay coil as Graham is suggesting.
2009 4/4 Sport Henrietta 1999 Indigo Blue +8 2009 4/4 Sport Green prev 1993 Con Green +8 prev
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Just a thought are the switches illuminated? Some switches take a separate live to illuminate the switch.
Ian 2011 Plus 4 Wild Mogs Reims 2019, Goodwood 2018, Isle of Man 2017, Carried on to Caramulo" 2016
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I did the same albeit on my ‘76 model. I used 5e wiring diagrams on GoMoG and found them to be quite ok. If I recall the hazard is the tricky one as power passes through it.
Richard 1976 4/4 4 Seater
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I'm in the middle of doing the same thing to my 1980 plus eight. In the end I have had to dismantle some rocker switches in order to see what connects with what inside. Then you have to work out how the new switch can replicate this. I assumed the hazard switch was an off/on switch but it is in fact a on/on switch. I'll have a look tomorrow to see how I connected the lights in the end and report back. Any feed to illumination is just a thin black or red wire on mine.
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when I check the original rocker lights switch in my hands without any wiring I get no continuity when off neither on side lamps and nor on headlamps, as it should be , but When I connect the wires I get continuity on one of them even when off.
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I've used Car Builder Solutions toggle switches. For the heater and lights I used this one https://www.carbuildersolutions.com/uk/knurled-ring-toggle-switch-off-on-on-3-positionLooking at the back of the switch, there are four tabs close together and two further apart. Both lights and heater use the four close together. On the lights, a green/yellow feed is split to attach to top left and middle right. A red/green goes to middle left and a blue to top right. For the heater, a plain green is split to go to top left and middle right. A green/?purple goes to middle left and a green/yellow to top right. I have not got hazards switch yet but i think it needs to be an on/on https://www.carbuildersolutions.com/uk/knurled-ring-toggle-switch-on-on-changeover-double-polei know that the two plain green go together for the indicators to work (ignition on) and then the other four (green/pink, green/red, green/light green and green/white have to be all connected for the hazards.(ignition off) Hope this helps!
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