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Hi there Martin
To follow on from above posts here's some pics of the regulator/rectifiers that could be fitted;

If it looks like this;

Then it's the original Morgan unit, is very expensive and will fail, possibly cooking the battery as it goes. It may be fitted this way;

Which is the original mounting or may be direct to the chassis which is the later and arguably better way;


If it looks more like this;

Then it is a cheap and nasty Harley Davidson clone from China via eBay and may well last forever. The real Harley ones are much more expensive and suspiciously similar

Telling if you have a Centa coupling or the earlier compensator is a bit more difficult. If there is no 2" inspection hole in the underside of the intermediate bell housing between the engine and the gearbox bell housing then you probably have the original compensator without the grease nipple and failure may be imminent!. If you have one 2" hole in the bell housing then you could have either the grease nippled original compensator or the Centa coupling; they had these holes drilled in slightly different locations depending on the type fitted. If there are two holes then it's a good chance that you have the Centa or the mechanic drilled one hole in the wrong place.
If what you see through the hole resembles this;

then not only do you have a Centa coupling but one of the four rubber rollers has broken up and is making a bid for freedom through the vent hole. Sorry I don't have a photo showing what it looks like without the bit of rubber sticking out but hopefully you will get some idea of what you would be looking at.
I'll echo those who say that the NVH kit for the bevel box achieves nothing and is probably not as good as not having it.
A decent battery does help but starting technique from cold and particularly after it has been sitting unused for a while is to turn on the ignition key, wait for the whirring of the fuel pump to stop, turn off the ignition, then repeat at least once, preferably twice then actually start the engine. Otherwise you can end up churning the engine over for a long time waiting for anything to happen. This has flattened quite a few batteries.
The cooling kit does away with a fair bit of misery for those unfortunate enough to live in a warm climate and suffer from heavy traffic. It does also apparently do a very good job of ducting cooling air around the engine when moving at speed so giving more even cooling. I don't have it on mine and have never had the dreaded "skip fire" mode wwhich some have found alarming.
I've got duct tape around the gaps behind the seats to reduce the impressive amount of dust that gets in from the back of the car. I also have some tape over the gaps at the front of the footwells, hidden behind the bottom chassis tubes; this was surprisingly awkward to do neatly and as far as I can tell has had no effect whatsoever on the crud that gets in down the footwells.

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Hi nippymog

Thanks for that advice - I will give that a go and see what it tells me.


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Hi Callum

Thanks for the reply.

It looks like I have the original design of regulator. Is it the vibration that kills these ??

Based on what everyone has said about the NVH kit, I think I'll just forget abut this for now.

I assume that the car is well sealed as the inside under seats and in the footwells still looks very clean so thats one less thing to think about.

I read that you had an aquaplaning issue in an earlier thread. Glad to hear you got out unscathed and hope you can get your car back together quickly.


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Hi CBM

Do you know how to identify the upgraded crankshaft pulley, the cam chest upgrade and the lower wishbone kit ??

I assume the timing cover spacers create a gap between the cam cover and the intermediate cam housing - if so I seem to have got these.

The reason I bought this car is my longer term fear that we will all end up sitting in autonomously driven electric boxes - and was hoping this would provide a good contrast.

Hadn't quite believed it could be so much of a contrast, but it seems like everyone on here is doing a good job progressing the development. I am really enjoying driving the car, but having spent all of my working life associated with product development in the automotive industry it does feel like the driveline is the one area that really could have done with more work !!

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Seems to be a combination of vibration screwing up the internals and really nasty external cabling that has brittle insulation that wears through on the positive wire giving incipient and increasing short circuits before the final failure. The original earth connection wasn't great either which can't have helped. The Chinese and Harley regs need the connector crimp changed to a bigger one to fit the positive terminal in front of the oil tank.

The original crank pinion bolt has a female Torx Plus head, the upgrade bolt has a conventional hex head.

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Hi Mark

My car has the empire kit and I am OK with the way it steers and handles - within the limits of the tyres.

It looks like a lot of sound proofing and sealing has been done so that is not going to be high on my list. It is the noise and transitions in the driveline that feel undeveloped.


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Comprehensive post Calum with plenty to think about....


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And I thought I was just going to drive it !!!

It is starting to feel more like a technical addiction and my wife is already asking why I keep going out to the garage !

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Originally Posted By MJF
Hi CBM
Do you know how to identify the upgraded crankshaft pulley??
The first page of this Document shows a comparison of the old & new types of crankshaft pulley (or pinion pulley in S&S speak).


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Originally Posted By MJF
And I thought I was just going to drive it !!!

It is starting to feel more like a technical addiction and my wife is already asking why I keep going out to the garage !


Likely only a matter of time before your wife gets jealous. I really enjoy everything about owning a Morgan so have fun!


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