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by G Walker - 24/08/26 06:52 PM
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Dave recently had a leather cowl fitted at Allon Whites when they had finished the car would not start so they had to dissemble the cowl and alter it since then it has refused to start twice but taking the key out and putting it back or changing to a second key starts the car. I now always take two keys with me! As you say it is disconcerting when this happens! Had the same problem with my 4/4 a few years ago Allon white also described the 20 sec rule! They also said jiggling behind the cowl with your finger sometimes works ! ! These pics above are very helpful thank you!
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“So I consulted my Guru..........”
You mean there is a higher grade of Guru than DaveW!!! Indeed there is! The trick is knowing who will know!!!!  . I don't have to know everything - to know whom I can ask is enough! Spot on bm  Someone will generally have the answer on here too, if Button hasn't seen it or done it before it's a rare thing during his decades of Morganing  Then there is Arwyn with his wealth of knowledge and experience of all things Morgan whether it has 3 or 4 wheels, we are truly blessed at TM both these guys are disarmingly modest too.
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Here is some advice from my friend in Lund  
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The game is not over...........
Tried this morning and I had to use the swipe and 20 second rule.
So I need another go with the cowl.
Given that that this has worked flawlessly for over two years, it does make me wonder if aging is affecting sensitivity of the components, although I suppose it shouldn't.
No time today but will post findings later..................
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I deliberately haven't tried the second key yet............I'm going to have another go tomorrow, and maybe try that if I still can't get consistency.
If key 2 works every time then what does that infer? That using the key erodes the function??? It doesn't make sense..........
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I would recommend trying the other key? It will confirm or isolate the concern?
Honesty means doing it right, even when no one is looking!
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If it is the key, then maybe the rfi transducer in the key is on the blink, you don't get very hot pockets do you?
Mark - No Longer driving Archie the Old English Sheep Mog........... 2010 Roadster 3.0 V6 (S3)
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It doesn't bode well if keys are going on the blink after two years does it......
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it does make me wonder if aging is affecting sensitivity..... Dave, as you are few years older than me, do you think this problem will affect me later? Cheers, Bert
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