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Hi... has anyone ever seen a +8 double hoop style roll bar for a +4?
Can't find one on google... but it could look good maybe?
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Not sure if I have understood what you mean by a "double-hooped design" Do you have any photos?
For a roll bar to be functional (ie protect the occupants in the event of a inversion) it should be braced at an angle which supports the main hoop. The only designs I have seen with 2 hoops are not braced so they will be much weaker.
Librands do a good system where you mount the lower structure to the car permanently, but the upper structure can be unbolted, however be warned, a bolted structure is not as strong as am all-welded one, and the permanent structure wil take up luggage space.
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I think there was a double hoop on an old MGB design, don't think it was rated as safety device..
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https://goo.gl/images/zpCVZ3Sorry for lack of clarity... I meant roll bar like on the +8 speedster... Available on cars such as mx5 but I've never seen on a +4
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https://www.google.ch/search?q=boss+frog+double+hoop+roll+bar&tbm=isch&tbs=simg:CAQSmQEJdCWiC3POcm8ajQELEKjU2AQaBggVCAAIAwwLELCMpwgaYgpgCAMSKP4MhA3fDOAMjxjhDIwYjhjqDP0MnSieKN4m2ieGJo0onCjfJtkn3icaMFIeDPmbDBu27L0UHE9MUuCOfTAvYUGfb4ReqjIKHteqQ7SlscYMQiBEwrtgL3qeTiAEDAsQjq7-CBoKCggIARIEDcqaDww&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi0x-H9nbXeAhXLC-wKHWL3DyYQ2A4IJCgB&biw=412&bih=718&dpr=2.63#imgrc=Otde8fIatpchqM
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Ok sorry was doing it on my mobile and having troubles...
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https://goo.gl/images/zpCVZ3Sorry for lack of clarity... I meant roll bar like on the +8 speedster... Available on cars such as mx5 but I've never seen on a +4 OK now I get your intention. This roll bar for the Speedster will only work on the Aero chassis. You cannot use it on a trad without a great deal of modification. If you really want to make one that looks like this design , them I am sure that a good fabricator of rollers can make one up for you , but as a one-off it will be expensive and possibly untested as to what happens in the event of an inversion. The other issue that I can force is the effect on the luggage space. This would be cut down to almost zero unless the fabricator can manage to create something radical without affecting it. Personally I think a roll bar should be functional rather then decorative , so I would go for the classic single hoop design with good bracing. Tried and tested in Morgans for many years.
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why thank you Andy...
points taken...
I was just wondering since the +8 now had this style rol bar if someone had manufactured one for other trad models
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