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MMC not only changed the lights but wiring too and had software written to overcome the bulb failure when I had all my lights changed over to LED's. Mine was the first Plus 8 they had done. I don't know if this would be required for headlights only or like Deano, who has fitted resistors to overcome the problem. Sure there's more than one solution.

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Originally Posted By PeterG
MMC not only changed the lights but wiring too and had software written to overcome the bulb failure when I had all my lights changed over to LED's. Mine was the first Plus 8 they had done. I don't know if this would be required for headlights only or like Deano, who has fitted resistors to overcome the problem. Sure there's more than one solution.



Crickey ! I thought LED's put less strain on power requirement , so maybe there will be big problems using LEDs on a non LED Mog ?


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The LED headlight bulbs also need to be cooled & have in built fans.
The resistor is needed on canbus systems only.


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This is what ive gone for this time rather than the jw speakers I fitted before. I'll put a pic up once the Noldens are in for sure though (currently in my cupboard haha)
Just for reference all the defender type headlights are plug and play. Its worth buying the stainless defender mounting ring at the same time as lights though.
Cheers Tom

Edit. just to ad my quote didnt work but was in reply to Peter smile

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Found the need to improve lights on my Roadster so investigated full LED headlamps from Powerful UK as discussed above.

I had already fitted their ARV6 LED DRL lamps, but they retain a halogen headlamp bulb. Despite uprating bulb was generally disappointed with results on both main and dip. Lead to believe that anything that fits Defender will fit Morgan so took the plunge and ordered their E approved HL051 pair albeit on sale or return.

Just fitted driver side one without issue, in order to make comparison. These are results against garage wall as weather not friendly enough to try in anger yet.

DRL/sidelights only.



Although the ARV6 type on left employ 12 x LED's in smiley format and look brighter side on, the bluish unfocussed light is dim on wall by comparison with new in DRL/sidelight mode. Here the outer six focused LED's run on half power.

Next we have dipped beam. On the right LED headlamp this comes from single central large lens LED.



Although camera angle favours the old ones its no contest really. Very well defined cutoff with tip up to the left to illuminate kerb. Look above cutoff to see how dark bricks are compared with splatter all around from halogens on left.

Finally main beam from the six outer LED's on full power with central dip remaining on. All seven have total current draw well below single filament of halogen.



Again camera angle favours the old halogen but totally eclipsed by LED's.

Assured they are MOT friendly but only 20 minutes to swap back. Oh and no ECU/BCU issues.

Note that lens does protrude 4mm more through mounting ring than previous, but only noticeable close up side on.


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That looks excellent - thanks for taking the time to post the details.

One question - do you just apply a mask of some kind for European touring?
The web site you link to makes no mention of how this is achieved.


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Glad to see you've sorted this Richard !


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Originally Posted By Paul F
One question - do you just apply a mask of some kind for European touring?

Just do an Aero and have them cross-eyed.


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Originally Posted By Paul F
That looks excellent - thanks for taking the time to post the details.

One question - do you just apply a mask of some kind for European touring?
The web site you link to makes no mention of how this is achieved.


No specific idea Paul. Given how easy it is to swap, I'd be tempted to pop in some LHD ones though - less of a bodge wink


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