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I’m not sure my car will reach a speed to trigger any speed cameras! 😂


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Originally Posted By Northernmorgan
I’m not sure my car will reach a speed to trigger any speed cameras! 😂

In Sydney the posties used 110cc Honda agricultural bikes. It became a bit of a fashion to own an ex posty bike and some even raced them.

A friend got a camera ticket for 92 kph in the Sydney Harbour Tunnel. He paid the fine but requested a copy of the photo (which you can do) to show people that the bike could actually do 92 kph smile

He was one of the founders of the Postie Bike Challenge A trek of over 3,000 km in outback Australia.

Here is a YouTube clip of a race



Goes to prove you can have fun even if you can't do the ton.

Sorry about the thread drift.

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are there any size restrictions on the plate itself as opposed to the lettering? in a rash moment I bought a reg number that is two letters and two numbers. I would like to have a plate that was no bigger than required to accommodate those digits when the digits are legal size. but I have never seen this on any car

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Originally Posted By Burgundymog
It doesn't matter about the date, if the plate is obscured to the extent that it cannot be read by the cameras or a following police car you are likely to get a £100 fine for Number plate obscured cop


We've had this discussion several times and never come up with a definitive answer. Like Owen's, my Morgan's rear plate cannot be read easily because it is obscured by the bumper; but that is how the model gained type approval at the time and how they left the factory.

Construction & use regulations are rarely (ever?) applied retrospectively so as far as I'm concerned it is as legal as a pre-1965 car without seatbelts or a Veteran with no indicators or front brakes.

Luckily, aside from an MOT tester's comment, I've never been challenged on it.

Originally Posted By howard
are there any size restrictions on the plate itself as opposed to the lettering? in a rash moment I bought a reg number that is two letters and two numbers. I would like to have a plate that was no bigger than required to accommodate those digits when the digits are legal size. but I have never seen this on any car


As mentioned above, the full regs can be downloaded here: Vehicle registration numbers and number plates (INF04). Character size, spacing and font are all prescribed but at a quick glance, I can't see any specific requirements for the plate itself.

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I had a five character narrow plate on a car for over twenty years without one comment.

Providing the spacing is right and the gap between the end characters and the edge of the plate is right.

It looked rather good. But because the Morgan has a number plate box, I now use a full width plate.


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Vehicle type approval is not retrospective and I can assure you that the low rear number plate on aluminium bumper cars can be read by a Gatso!


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Yes Howard, I have a smaller plate for a 5 character registration so I guess you can for 4? The regs. are on the internet.


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So long as you stick to the correct font type & size and don't illegally tweak the spacing you can have a minimum 10mm from the letters to the plate edge - this will govern your minimum size


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Originally Posted By PeterG
I've had black and silver on mine from virtually the beginning. Current prefix style, I have had them mentioned once or twice innocent but never any legal issue, so far purely on the plates.

They are recognised by speed cameras, however it appears some traffic system cameras cannot for example the Dartford crossing. Although the car is registered on their system via work.


Peter G, That is interesting and worrying. How did you find out that the Dartford Crossing readers couldn't detect black/white plates?


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Originally Posted By PeterG
I've had black and silver on mine from virtually the beginning. Current prefix style, I have had them mentioned once or twice innocent but never any legal issue, so far purely on the plates.

They are recognised by speed cameras, however it appears some traffic system cameras cannot for example the Dartford crossing. Although the car is registered on their system via work.


Peter G, That is interesting and worrying. How did you find out that the Dartford Crossing readers couldn't detect black/white plates?



Well Reg, about 12 months ago, I logged into our Dart Tag thingy account to add a new vehicle at work and although I know I asked someone to add my Mog to the system 4 1/2 years ago. It wasn't on there and I have not had a single reminder let alone a fine. Which I did the other year from another car thats got "legal" plates on it. So I presume that the Dartford crossing cannot recognise the black and white plates. Certainly not mine.

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