|
2 members (mph, Julian BB),
286
guests, and
88
robots. |
|
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
Forums39
Topics49,847
Posts837,389
Members9,596
| |
Most Online1,063
Jun 14th, 2026
|
|
|
There are no members with birthdays on this day. |
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 8,646
Needs to Get Out More!
|
OP
Needs to Get Out More!
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 8,646 |
A matter close to the hearts of all Morgan enthusiasts. There was a pretty gloomy piece on ash dieback in the uk on the today programme this morning, which seemed to say that the impact was proving to be worse than had at first been predicted. I can’t find a link to them at part of the programme alone. Did any of you chaps hear it ?
Giles. Mogless in Paris.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 1,615 Likes: 1
Talk Morgan Enthusiast
|
|
Talk Morgan Enthusiast
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 1,615 Likes: 1 |
Fortunately there's plenty of elm to be had, which has the same qualities
SFG
2012 4/4 Sport
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 308
Learner Plates Off!
|
|
Learner Plates Off!
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 308 |
Morgan has plenty of stock of ash at the moment from its Lincolnshire supplier. But does it need it? The new alloy chassis cars don’t really need a wood frame...it’s a bit of a sales gimick really. All part of the Morgan “wood, alloy and leather” thing. That should be in the past, composites or formed alloy structures would be far more accurate and allow for increased production more efficiently.
I’ll hide now!
John
1936 Austin Seven Ulster Replica
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 384
Learner Plates Off!
|
|
Learner Plates Off!
Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 384 |
it’s a bit of a sales gimick really. +1
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 1,615 Likes: 1
Talk Morgan Enthusiast
|
|
Talk Morgan Enthusiast
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 1,615 Likes: 1 |
Most upholstered furniture has a wood frame. I suppose it's easier to work than metal and woodworking skills are easier to master.
SFG
2012 4/4 Sport
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 1,461
Has a lot to Say!
|
|
Has a lot to Say!
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 1,461 |
Morgan has plenty of stock of ash at the moment from its Lincolnshire supplier. But does it need it? The new alloy chassis cars don’t really need a wood frame...it’s a bit of a sales gimmick really. All part of the Morgan “wood, alloy and leather” thing. That should be in the past, composites or formed alloy structures would be far more accurate and allow for increased production more efficiently.
I’ll hide now! That was exactly what I thought after a few moments of being pleased that a bit of ash frame had been retained in the Plus Six. Of course, if ash is not used in future Morgans, the company's remaining stock can be sold off. Very good for flooring, as is well known...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 537 Likes: 3
Talk Morgan Regular
|
|
Talk Morgan Regular
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 537 Likes: 3 |
Most upholstered furniture has a wood frame. I suppose it's easier to work than metal and woodworking skills are easier to master. Yes but the panel beating that goes with it is very specialist. At the end of the day the ash frame is probably the bit that makes Morgans unique because it is central to the process of panel beating and therefore the individuality of each car. Once this is removed from the process and replaced with a precision moulded or assembled frame, the need for panel beating goes with it, to be replaced with the supply and assembly of pre-formed panels.
Rob T
2017 Tungsten Plus 4
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 5,945 Likes: 28
Charter Member
|
|
Charter Member
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 5,945 Likes: 28 |
Most upholstered furniture has a wood frame. I suppose it's easier to work than metal and woodworking skills are easier to master. Yes but the panel beating that goes with it is very specialist. At the end of the day the ash frame is probably the bit that makes Morgans unique because it is central to the process of panel beating and therefore the individuality of each car. Once this is removed from the process and replaced with a precision moulded or assembled frame, the need for panel beating goes with it, to be replaced with the supply and assembly of pre-formed panels. Yes but thats the part that makes it necessary to hand produce, it means that parts arent interchangeable in the way they should be, and it limits volumes. I reckon you will find that the new Italians owners do something about the old factory methods and gross inefficiencies.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 537 Likes: 3
Talk Morgan Regular
|
|
Talk Morgan Regular
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 537 Likes: 3 |
Most upholstered furniture has a wood frame. I suppose it's easier to work than metal and woodworking skills are easier to master. Yes but the panel beating that goes with it is very specialist. At the end of the day the ash frame is probably the bit that makes Morgans unique because it is central to the process of panel beating and therefore the individuality of each car. Once this is removed from the process and replaced with a precision moulded or assembled frame, the need for panel beating goes with it, to be replaced with the supply and assembly of pre-formed panels. Yes but thats the part that makes it necessary to hand produce, it means that parts arent interchangeable in the way they should be, and it limits volumes. I reckon you will find that the new Italians owners do something about the old factory methods and gross inefficiencies. That was what I was trying to get at really. However I would only see the traditional methods defined as inefficient if the intention was to increase output significantly.
Rob T
2017 Tungsten Plus 4
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 5,182 Likes: 2
Charter Member
|
|
Charter Member
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 5,182 Likes: 2 |
Howard Depends if they want to keep hand build in their portfolio.
Last edited by Ray; 08/03/19 07:31 PM.
.+8 Now gone for a 1800 4/4. Duratec in bright yellow.
|
|
|
|
|
